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Old 08-01-12, 07:10 PM
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Default GM Mktg chief fired

Joel Ewanick, GM global mktg chief fired for not meeting company expectations. Ouch!
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Stil 4x billion in the hole
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Originally Posted by chikoo
Joel Ewanick, GM global mktg chief fired for not meeting company expectations. Ouch!
With Buick being the top-selling car in (now) the world's fastest-growing car-market, they are going to fire their global marketing chief?

Reminds me of the day, some years ago, when Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones fired his head-coach Jimmy Johnson the day after the team came back from the Super Bowl with a trophy. I spit my coffee out when I saw that.

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He wasn't fired, he resigned. But seriously, he could have been let go for a number of reasons not related to his actual job performance. Maybe he banged the wrong wife or ran over the wrong dog who knows.
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they need to fire more than him if they want better performance
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The ads do need help. They got a much better product but can't translate it to customers. They need the CTS and Camaro team cloned!
 
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
The ads do need help.
Who with any sense actually buys a car based on ads?...............many of, I'm sure you and can both agree on, are an insult to one's intelligence.

If that were the case, Consumer Reports, other consumer publications, Edmund's and similiar organizations, the auto-enthusiast mags, and, of course, MM and 1SICK reviews would be out of buisness.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Who with any sense actually buys a car based on ads?...............many of, I'm sure you and can both agree on, are an insult to one's intelligence.
There are many consumers out there, especially enthusiasts and loyalists (hey, we've got a bunch of them in this forum... ), that are emotion-driven, not intellect-driven.

But then again, most cars are based on emotion, not function. You can't sell muscle cars, GT convertibles, and race coupes based on intelligence...
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Who with any sense actually buys a car based on ads?...............many of, I'm sure you and can both agree on, are an insult to one's intelligence.

If that were the case, Consumer Reports, other consumer publications, Edmund's and similiar organizations, the auto-enthusiast mags, and, of course, MM and 1SICK reviews would be out of buisness.
Mike you also don't think spending money on voters matters so not surprised by your stance here. The bottom line is marketing/advertising is huge to sway public opinion and perception, especially since most are not enthusiasts.

A non-enthusiast seems a car and just likes how it looks or maybe the price. GM really needs to translate their improvement and vehicles better. They have done it with the CTS, Camaro and last gen Malibu for example.

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There are many consumers out there, especially enthusiasts and loyalists (hey, we've got a bunch of them in this forum... ), that are emotion-driven, not intellect-driven.

But then again, most cars are based on emotion, not function. You can't sell muscle cars, GT convertibles, and race coupes based on intelligence...
Great post.

We need to all hope GM does well, that is a manufacturing powerhouse and that employees so many thousands of Americans directly and indirectly.
 
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i hate commercial that attack opponent's weakness rather than stating the car's strength. that's like the politician, and they are the lowest life on earth.

for the same reason, i hate Hyundai's first super bowl genesis commercial, for that reason alone you will not find me buying a Hyundai.

and if this guys directed GM's commercial to make fun of Ford, he should be let go. he brought great shame to entire GM brand.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Mike you also don't think spending money on voters matters so not surprised by your stance here.
I agree money helps get the camaign-message out (I've always felt that way).......that's why it is needed for today's campaigns. Money, though, can't force people to pull levers or push buttons once they are actually in the voting-booth....and that's where elections are won or lost. In the booth, it is strictly a matter of the mind and conscience.

The bottom line is marketing/advertising is huge to sway public opinion and perception, especially since most are not enthusiasts.
Yet, check the typical car-enthusiast mag (C&D, R&T, Autoweek, Motor Trend, etc.....) and you'll find more ads inside than pages.

Of course, the car-mags have ads for lots more than just cars........shaving, personal-grooming, car-care-supplies, tobacco products, clothing, male-enhancement drugs, etc.....

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
With Buick being the top-selling car in (now) the world's fastest-growing car-market, they are going to fire their global marketing chief?
Where did you get this data from? The top selling car should be the VW Santana, since 99% of Chinese taxis use them and the majority of the 1.3 billion people there do not have cars. Even if it is somehow true, unfortunately, GM only benefits a fraction (50%) because Chinese (communist) laws require the State to own 50% of the company as a join venture with GM.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Who with any sense actually buys a car based on ads?...............many of, I'm sure you and can both agree on, are an insult to one's intelligence.

If that were the case, Consumer Reports, other consumer publications, Edmund's and similiar organizations, the auto-enthusiast mags, and, of course, MM and 1SICK reviews would be out of buisness.
Dealership traffic is based on ads. All those magazines you name depend on ad revenue. Bad ads, means less dealership traffic, means less sales. Face it, majority of people buy car as an emotional or status purchase. Marketing and advertising feeds that emotion and status symbol.
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Originally Posted by My0gr81
Dealership traffic is based on ads.
Those ads, more often than not, insult an ape's intelligence, much less a human's. I've see more more credibility in WWE shows.


Face it, majority of people buy car as an emotional or status purchase. Marketing and advertising feeds that emotion and status symbol.
Not in my experience...and I've helped a lot of people shop for new vehicles over the years. There was an occasional lust for image here and there, such as the new bright-red Toyota MR2 Turbo that an old friend of mine just had to have for himself because it looked like a Ferrari but was more reliable, or the two Dodge Viper coupes he bought for his sports-car-rental company. But the vast majority of them simply wanted (or needed) a suitable, affordable, reliable daily-driver that met their needs, not something to show off with or to keep up with the Jones'es. These included cars that, on average, ran from around 10-12K to about 40K.

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Old 08-03-12, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ST430
Where did you get this data from? The top selling car should be the VW Santana, since 99% of Chinese taxis use them and the majority of the 1.3 billion people there do not have cars.

Those who do buy cars, though, in China, simply love the Buick Excelle.

(In fact, I just bought the American-spec version myself....the Verano)

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...t-selling-car/

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2012/...breaks-record/

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