Lexus LF-CC Paris Motor Show
09-20-12, 08:30 AM
#166
Lexus Connoisseur
I have some info on the 3IS which I'll share here since it relates to the LF-CC.
This evening I went to a grand opening event for Lexus of Santa Barbara and got to meet Stephen from Lexus Headquarters. Some of you may have met him at the Lexus of Westminster meet. He's the guy that showed up in the silver ISF CCS-R style prototype. I believe him to be a pretty credible source.
He shared some info with me regarding the 3IS. As we know, it's going to be released next June as a 2014 model with the same drivetrains as the current generation. However during the mid cycle refresh of the 3IS, the 250 model will get a twin turbo 4 cylinder engine, while the 350 will be upgraded to a twin turbo 6 cylinder with over 350 HP...which is what I'll be waiting for.
The convertible hardtop version will be replaced with a ragtop model.
The LF-CC concept will not be branded as an IS, but rather a new model to fit as a coupe between the IS and GS model.
The F-Sport IS model won't have the bumper bar across the spindle grill.
This evening I went to a grand opening event for Lexus of Santa Barbara and got to meet Stephen from Lexus Headquarters. Some of you may have met him at the Lexus of Westminster meet. He's the guy that showed up in the silver ISF CCS-R style prototype. I believe him to be a pretty credible source.
He shared some info with me regarding the 3IS. As we know, it's going to be released next June as a 2014 model with the same drivetrains as the current generation. However during the mid cycle refresh of the 3IS, the 250 model will get a twin turbo 4 cylinder engine, while the 350 will be upgraded to a twin turbo 6 cylinder with over 350 HP...which is what I'll be waiting for.
The convertible hardtop version will be replaced with a ragtop model.
The LF-CC concept will not be branded as an IS, but rather a new model to fit as a coupe between the IS and GS model.
The F-Sport IS model won't have the bumper bar across the spindle grill.
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09-20-12, 09:10 AM
#167
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loooooool
09-20-12, 09:19 AM
#168
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I think it being "uncrackable" is due to the lack of tuners focusing on the IS, overall Lexus brand on a whole. I'm sure BMW has its best security patches on their ecu's to avoid those taking advantage of the car, but due to the mass following of BMW and BMW specific tuners, more hands will surely find a way to crack them.
As the F brand gets more popular and widespread, we'll see ECU hacks more frequently and opening up these motors true identities
As the F brand gets more popular and widespread, we'll see ECU hacks more frequently and opening up these motors true identities
my logic is this if toyota/Lexus are going to release some forced induction engines then theyll know that their reliability factor will be at stake if lots of ecus make it to the market, esp in todays market with the oncoming onslaught of cheaper Korean cars and german cars, toyotas reliability will need to remain a top priority
09-20-12, 09:25 AM
#169
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to add to wat Spwolf said, in any regards the "IS coupe" since its a coupe will at sold at a higher price point than the 4 door. and since bmw are introducing the next gen 3 series coupe as a 4 series then, as Spwolf, said they will be able to charge even more. So since this is a business and Lexus are in it to make money, then they too will follow suit and create a new segment and charge youven more for the coupe. And they know we will all gobble that ish up and buy a coupe
09-20-12, 03:51 PM
#172
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twinturbo i4? Makes no sense since it be 1) costly 2) inefficient and 3) ineffective vs. a single. Could you have misinterpreted him to mean twin-scroll turbo or dual forced injection (turbo+sc) instead?
09-20-12, 04:07 PM
#173
Or most likely it is twin-scroll turbo, as they all are now.
That ragtop thing make no sense either, as the current IS-C is a folding hardtop, no one ever goes back to a cloth top. Even mid engine spider got folding hardtop now a days, ragtop only make sense if there is an engine in the way.
I sure hope this turbocharging rumor is true, that means Lexus is following the Europeans foot step, turbocharging everything, so someday there will be a twin turbo V8 for the LS and SC or LF-LC.
Last edited by BNR34; 09-20-12 at 04:11 PM.
09-20-12, 04:13 PM
#175
09-20-12, 04:15 PM
#177
That is because they haven't got a folding hardtop yet, none of them had a folding hardtop version before. No one goes back to a ragtop after having a folding hardtop, is like going back to the carburetor after having direct injection. Some day all convertible will be a folding hardtop, unless it is technically not possible due to not enough room. Even the top of the 991 Carrera convertible is a multip piece hard panel, it still got the cloth due to packaging reasons.
Last edited by BNR34; 09-20-12 at 04:24 PM.
09-20-12, 04:30 PM
#180
But the current LS600h only makes 440 hp, the rumor is the LF-LC will have 500 hp. Is hard to add 60 hp from electric power alone, they sure are not putting in a bigger displacement engine, the only power adder left is boost.
They could add a 60 shots of NOS.............JK
Last edited by BNR34; 09-20-12 at 04:34 PM.