Hoovey689

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oyota Sequoia dumps 4.6L V8 for 2013, adds Blu-Ray player

Buyers stepping into a 2013 Toyota Sequoia can expect to do so without the choice of a 4.6-liter V8. The big, body-on-frame SUV will roll into showrooms with big 5.7-liter V8 as standard equipment, as the smaller engine has been discontinued. With 381 horsepower and 401 pound-feet of torque, the iForce 5.7 liter gives the Sequoia a tow rating of up to 7,400 pounds. The six-speed automatic transmission of last year stays on to shuttle power to either a two-wheel drive or four-wheel drive system that boasts a lockable Torsen limited-slip center differential.

Those who feel like spending a little extra cash can step up to Platinum trim for a rash of interior niceties. More importantly, the higher trim serves up an Adaptive Variable Suspension, which offers the driver a total of three damping settings.

For the first time, the 2013 Sequoia offers back passengers the luxury of a Blu-Ray player, and Toyota claims the SUV is the first production vehicle in the world to offer high-definition rear-seat entertainment. Toyota's Entune multimedia system is also newly available for 2013.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/19/t...try-first-blu/

Och

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Does GX460 keep the 4.6? I though Sequoia was being discontinued?

Hoovey689

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Yes the GX460 soldiers on with the 4.6L V8. Iirc the Tundra also still offers it too but that may change with the Sequoia dropping it.

bigbwb

In my opinion, the 4.6L was a joke to begin with. Just over 300hp, really? Most V6's for a while have offered well over that (even N/A ones). The mileage was only slightly better anyway. Same thing happend to the 4 cyl in the 2010 4runner, it got canned after the first year or so.

Toyota needs something in between otherwise a DI V6 with over 300 hp

Hoovey689

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pretty much my sentiments when the second gen GX bowed

Och

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I don't know if its even freaking worth it, but I'll try.

In an 4x4 SUV that is designed for offroading and towing, maximum horse power is the least of your worries, and so is maximum torque for that matter. You want a decent amount of torque down low, to be able to lets say pull a trailed uphill from a dead spot, climb over a rock from a dead stop, etc.

Hoovey689

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I believe it, but what percentage of Lexus SUVs really ever tackle most of that other than cruising suburban streets with a boat load of kids from school to soccer and then to Target. I'd much rather see a GX570

MPLexus301

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I wouldn't mind a GX 570 in theory, but we have the GX 460 and that engine has handled everything we've ever thrown at it without breaking a sweat. I think it's more power than most people really need.

We tow a boat, take it to our cabin (all through the Great Smoky Mountains) loaded down with people and cargo, and it's a never once felt underpowered or incapable.

So, to me, would a GX 570 be nice? Sure. It would probably do 0-60 in 6 seconds flat. Is it even remotely necessary? No way.

Och

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Well, I always said most GX buyers are much better off with a cross over such as MDX or X5. But the GX is built with offroading and towing capabilities in mind, and those few buyers that require such capabilities - the GX is perfect for them.

spwolf

our Land Crusier gets this V8 engine, so I can comment on it - it is plenty fast in that heavier car. It pulls strongly.... I liked it a lot better than LC V8 twin turbo diesel.

But I am European, so I might not understand why would anyone need 400hp SUV thats not some special edition.

bigbwb

I wont argue that point. I was trying to point out that in comparison to other larger V8 equipped SUV's, it seems underpowered(many have 400hp & good torque #'s). With the added weight over my 4runner, the 0-60 is the same and not that impressive. Not that I street race, but when you are paying nearly $60k, it doesn't hurt to have some get up and go!

I'm sure its a great motor (My 4.7L V8 in my 2006 4runner was excellent). Maybe I am spoiled driving the wifes IS350

Och

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Sometimes people are only looking at maximum torque numbers, and thats a wrong approach for an offroader. You gotta look at the torque curve and see how torque you're getting at 1-2,000 RPM, because thats whats going determine whether you can effortlessly start climbing up a steep hill while towing a load, or burn your transmission while revving the guts out of your engine.

This is why engines designed for such applications have long strokes - it doesn't allow them to rev very fast, or sustain torque at high RPM, but they have that long lever that provides effortless low end grunt.

For instance the old LC had a 4.5 litre inline six, with only around 200hp and around 270lb/tq of torque, but it was bulletproof and 90% of the torque was available from just 1,000rpm, and LC's offroading prowess became legendary.

bigbwb

^^^^^. True!

Hence why a good truck motor has more torque than HP versus the crossover motors with simply high HP numbers.

Hoovey689

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Gosh I can't wait till the Expedition gets the EcoBoost 3.5 365hp @ 5500rpm and 420lbft @ 2500 rpm. That's all I'll need in a fullsize body on frame SUV

Toys4RJill

I have to agree, the 4.6 really needs closer to 335 or more horsepower to make it worth it in any SUV form. For the a reg cab or double cab Tundra, it works just find and I think the Tundra is what the 4.6 was designed for first and foremost.