Originally Posted by I8ABMR

I like Road and Track FAR more than Car and Driver. They even have the little symbols you can scan for videos on the article you are reading. Very cool and helps to differentiate from the competition

Originally Posted by mmarshall

You better believe it......even today. A paper magazine can't break down, lose a battery-charge, or have a power failure.

Originally Posted by UDel

Where do you get the free "trail" subscriptions? I looked into that a few times and most of those offering the free trials were scam sites, I only pay like 5 or 8 bucks a year for Car and Driver, Automobile, and Road and Track but getting them or others free would be nice

I have no issues with Car and Driver or most auto magazines except that they pretty much never really take reliability and expensive upkeep into consideration when they review and rate cars and it is something to consider when they give normally very unreliable German and British cars like BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Jaguar, such high marks. I have never been really impressed with Motor Trend though.

I wish CAR, EVO, and TOP GEAR where cheaper and had a good subscription price because they are my favorite auto mags but way too expensive to buy every month.

"Sports Car International" was excellent and my favorite American auto mag, I am very sad to see it go.

Originally Posted by cmk1

I have no idea why you believe this, but the last unreliable genuine Jaguars were the XJ40 XJ-Series(1986-1994) and XJ-S/XJS sold through the mid '90s. Jaguar surpasses all of those brands on your list and meets Lexus closely in terms of reliability nowadays. My father still has a 2000 Vanden Plas S/C sedan he bought 12 years ago and it's still in fantastic shape, as well as his 2006 and 2009 models. It's just a myth that people won't let go of from decades ago.

Originally Posted by DaveGS4

Are you basing that comment on something other than your dad's Jaguar?

I personally don't recall seeing any broad surveys that show Jag better than average (example below):

http://businesscenter.jdpower.com/ne...spx?ID=2012008

and

http://www.consumerreports.org/conte...liability.html
1. Scion
2. Toyota
3. Lexus
4. Mazda
5. Subaru
6. Honda
7. Acura
8. Audi
9. Infiniti
10. Kia
11. Cadillac
12. GMC
13. Nissan
14. Mercedes-Benz
15. Chevrolet
16. BMW
17. Hyundai
18. Volkswagen
19. Jeep
20. Volvo
21. Buick
22. Mini
23. Chrysler
24. Dodge
25. Ram
26. Lincoln
27. Ford
28. Jaguar

A bit off topic, so may be worth a new thread rather than taking this down that path...

Originally Posted by cmk1

I long got tired of Car & Driver, as I became a subscriber over a decade ago when I was 10 and noticed a reduction in content during the last few years. To be honest, unless a magazine is going to be providing me exclusives I won't find online(like spy images, leaked new designs), then there isn't any point being subscribed to them.



I have no idea why you believe this, but the last unreliable genuine Jaguars were the XJ40 XJ-Series(1986-1994) and XJ-S/XJS sold through the mid '90s. Jaguar surpasses all of those brands on your list and meets Lexus closely in terms of reliability nowadays. My father still has a 2000 Vanden Plas S/C sedan he bought 12 years ago and it's still in fantastic shape, as well as his 2006 and 2009 models. It's just a myth that people won't let go of from decades ago.

Originally Posted by SteVTEC

I stopped taking C&D even the least bit seriously after this comparison.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...ype-s-page-6-1

The Acura RSX-S got its but whooped big time in just about every single category that there was, yet they still gave it 1st place and basically told their readers to go F themselves. Haven't read C&D since. Automobile magazine threw together some ridiculously amateurish dyno number comparisons for a particular car that weren't even the least bit correct and actually published this BS as fact (I debunked it elsewhere in like 2 minutes), so I won't read them either.

The only car rag that hasn't explicitly pissed me off with complete horse**** is R&T, but then again I don't make a habit of reading these rags much anyways so for all I know they're just as bad.

Originally Posted by Fizzboy7

Have no problem with C&D. I find their opinions match mine closer than the others. It's Autoweek (Autobimonthly) that's driving my crazy. They review the most useless cars- exotics, supercars, noncars, old cars, racecars, and cars not sold here. These are all unrealistic vehicles or ones I or most others would never be an owner of. Waste of time. I'm sure I'm alone on that though. All the hype with car mags seems to be for the big gun or rare cars.