2013 Motor Trend Car of the Year (COTY)
11-12-12, 12:19 PM
#18
I hope it is the GS for the sole fact that such an award would make Lexus dump some money into advertising the car, but I am not holding my breath.
I think the Model S is too expensive, personally. If they chose the GL as the SUVOTY and the Model S as the COTY, that would leave some people scratching their heads.
I think the Model S is too expensive, personally. If they chose the GL as the SUVOTY and the Model S as the COTY, that would leave some people scratching their heads.
11-12-12, 01:13 PM
#23
Lexus Fanatic
The reason is beacause this is the first Toyota to introduce the new design theme at Toyota (Corolla will follow the Avalon) and it pushes a premium upscale design which Toyota has yet to introuce,
11-12-12, 01:20 PM
#24
Motor Trend has three qualifications to be COTY:
1) Exceptional Value
2) Superiority in Class
3) Most Significant Development
I don't think the Avalon has trumped any of these qualities, no matter how better it is from the previous generation.
The Tesla Model S however...
1) Exceptional Value
2) Superiority in Class
3) Most Significant Development
I don't think the Avalon has trumped any of these qualities, no matter how better it is from the previous generation.
The Tesla Model S however...
11-12-12, 02:57 PM
#26
Pole Position
The first qualification rules out the Tesla S immediately. Its a rich man's toy right now, not even beginning to approach a value proposition.
11-12-12, 03:02 PM
#27
The Chevy Volt is $45k, the Nissan Leaf is $40k, and the electric Rav4 is $50k. Heck, the Fisker Karma is $120k!
To have an electric car of this caliber for $65k (which costs the same as a Lexus GS or Audi A6), and be faster than a BMW M5, well, it does show value compared to other alternative-fuel vehicles.
11-12-12, 03:12 PM
#28
Pole Position
The trim that is faster than an M5 DOES NOT cost 65K, more like twice that price...
The far future may well be all electric but hybrids are a much more realistic, affordable and practical proposition for the near future.
The far future may well be all electric but hybrids are a much more realistic, affordable and practical proposition for the near future.
11-12-12, 03:20 PM
#29
But $49k for the base one.
Well, you can have what you want with the Model S. Cost efficiency in one; *****-out luxury performance with another.
Various trims can make a lot more people happy.
I think it will with the COTY because of what you just said: "the future may be all electric." The Model S may have paved the road to the future far better than the Volt or Leaf.
11-12-12, 03:39 PM
#30
$85k for the Performance model.
But $49k for the base one.
Well, you can have what you want with the Model S. Cost efficiency in one; *****-out luxury performance with another.
Various trims can make a lot more people happy.
I think it will with the COTY because of what you just said: "the future may be all electric." The Model S may have paved the road to the future far better than the Volt or Leaf.
But $49k for the base one.
Well, you can have what you want with the Model S. Cost efficiency in one; *****-out luxury performance with another.
Various trims can make a lot more people happy.
I think it will with the COTY because of what you just said: "the future may be all electric." The Model S may have paved the road to the future far better than the Volt or Leaf.
Its $70k to the 85kw model that supports supercharging, without which Tesla Model S is just a toy.
I am sure Tesla S will win. A lot better than some Ford to win it.