First Drive: 2013 BMW ActiveHybrid 3
#32
More advanced? The only "advanced" bit of the new 4-cylinder hybrid powertrain is direct injection, which the IS250 has too. The "5k difference" in Europe most likely comes from a much better equipped standard IS300h over a stripped IS250, which doesn't have to be the case in the US. Also, I don't know why you keep on repeating the 0-60 issue when it's pretty much proven that hybrid buyers don't care about power, not to mention that if the estimates from Autocar are even remotely correct, it will do 0-60 in 7 seconds or less, a very plausible time given the 240hp figure you raved about so much.
I doubt change in 5k is due to options, because in Europe we get base levels with every engine... If ES300h is $1750 more expensive than ES350, then why wouldnt IS300h be at least $2k more expensive than IS350? And how much more expensive will it be than IS250? :-).
#33
if it is going to have 240hp and get 40+ MPG, it is a lot more advanced than just D4S. Direct injection to Camry Hybrid would only add 15hp. Articles mention new transmissions, which probably has 2 speeds like in GS450h.
I doubt change in 5k is due to options, because in Europe we get base levels with every engine... If ES300h is $1750 more expensive than ES350, then why wouldnt IS300h be at least $2k more expensive than IS350? And how much more expensive will it be than IS250? :-).
I doubt change in 5k is due to options, because in Europe we get base levels with every engine... If ES300h is $1750 more expensive than ES350, then why wouldnt IS300h be at least $2k more expensive than IS350? And how much more expensive will it be than IS250? :-).
Again, most hybrid buyers pay a premium to feel good about saving fuel, not to make financial sense or to gain performance. As long as a hybrid model saves enough fuel, it will sell. Lexus simply dropped the ball here and forgot why people buy hybrids.
Last edited by ydooby; 12-18-12 at 01:47 PM.
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