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Old 01-09-13, 10:32 AM
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Arrow BMW 3 Series M Sport versus 2014 Lexus IS F Sport

Just revealed 2014 Lexus IS F-Sport Compared to BMW F30 3 Series M Sport

Good comparo.
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Old 01-09-13, 10:34 AM
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Taillights on the F sport are yick. Though, I'm guessing both will be close in sales.
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I dunno ...... I'll have to wait to see the IS in person and drive it. Not convinced with the rear.

Actually it's very close in profile to the current model.

I'd rather wait for the coupe (if it is coming) but at this point i'd maybe swing towards the 3 (but rather the 4 coupe as well )
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Originally Posted by SC400slide
Taillights on the F sport are yick. Though, I'm guessing both will be close in sales.
The sport models may be close in sales, but I will bet the IS will not touch the "industry standard" in sales. This is a fiercely competitive segment that the 3-series owns, much like Lexus owns a segment with its RX350.
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Old 01-09-13, 10:40 AM
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I don't think I read one positive comment on those boards. Fanboys be fanboys
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Old 01-09-13, 10:45 AM
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Yeah, you will always get these type of comparisons.. but i'm waiting for some real world pictures before really stating any more opinions.

Hoovey, btw is your IS still setup like that pic? It's badass!!
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Old 01-09-13, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
I don't think I read one positive comment on those boards. Fanboys be fanboys
true, but at the same time, you have to admit that the initial feedback on the leaked 3IS pics are about 50/50 in CL.

maybe more towards a positive opinion because, well, CL is (duh) lexus-oriented.
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Old 01-09-13, 11:17 AM
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Pretty cool they did a comparo so quick and its great that BMW has a M sport and Lexus has a F sport. The BMW is clearly far more traditional while the IS is far more adventurous.
 
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
I don't think I read one positive comment on those boards. Fanboys be fanboys
Being a BMW forum, I'd assume they'd be upset by any vehicle which doesn't trace its fundamental design back to the 1970's.
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Old 01-09-13, 12:04 PM
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Sadly that huge arc going from the center console to the center stack on the IS is a non-starter for me. Consumes tons of knee space and I've never fit well into any car with that type of setup. The BMW F30 leaves this space open which is how I fit into their cars so great. Still looking forward to seeing what the next Infiniti G (or is it a "Q" now??) is going to turn out.
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Old 01-09-13, 12:23 PM
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i think the new is looks much better and more interesting than the 3 series. more exciting.
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Originally Posted by rominl
i think the new is looks much better and more interesting than the 3 series. more exciting.
huge +1.............. makes the 3 series look way outdated IMO.

Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Sadly that huge arc going from the center console to the center stack on the IS is a non-starter for me. Consumes tons of knee space and I've never fit well into any car with that type of setup. The BMW F30 leaves this space open which is how I fit into their cars so great.
uhh, are you so tall your knees are at >90° or something while seated in a car???

I absolutely love the looks of the center stack...looks high tech and new not BORING.

also -- BMW shifter is horrible...IS kills it

Gauge cluster is no comparison...BMW from 1972.

lastly, I HATE pop-up NAV screens (even on the CT).

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Old 01-09-13, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueprint
Pretty cool they did a comparo so quick and its great that BMW has a M sport and Lexus has a F sport. The BMW is clearly far more traditional while the IS is far more adventurous.
I think its a good idea, out of all the sedan models, the IS is the one that should be adventurous. Good job Lexus!
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Old 01-09-13, 12:49 PM
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Its funny to read those comment on F30 forum. Most of them are negative.....one state its ugly but he own a 128i .....
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from what i came up with without driving either car:

performance: 335i m-sport (MT mentioned the I6 turbo was seriously underrated, it's really close to 320hp and 350lb-ft)

handling: IS350 f-sport (MT ranked 335i m-sport last in recent issue behind ATS 3.6 and MB C350 sport, siting handling was the main reason). from the raving review of the outstanding suspension on the 4GS, I can see IS350 takes the trophy in this department

exterior styling: small edge to IS350 (BMW is just too conservative, Lexus would easily take this category if not for the weird looking taillights)

interior styling: big edge to the new IS350
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