BMW 320 for America... 180hp I-4, 33k
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I am stunned when they saddle us with an X1 or base 3-series that people will pay the kind of money they do for what are cheap cars.
Edit: We already have this car up here and it's $45K...lol.
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"Almost same" fuel economy is not even close, it looks hideous and makes me want to vomit whenever I see one (the 300), I prefer smaller and more nimble cars, and I doubt the 300 will drive nearly as well or be as engaging to drive as the 3ers can be. If I really wanted a Charger or 300 I'd go straight to the HEMI V8 or SRT models.
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180hp for 33k? Read that out loud. I didn't say anything about how it drives or its attributes. That's simply overpriced for the consumer, which is why I brought up the pathetic ILX.
It doesn't matter how well it drives or what it has, if you have to pay 33k (and witth TTL), that's overpriced. The current 3 series is overpriced as it is.
It doesn't matter how well it drives or what it has, if you have to pay 33k (and witth TTL), that's overpriced. The current 3 series is overpriced as it is.
That is why cars are different at the same price point, people's values are different. BMW clearly knows what they are doing and with the 328 and 335 going up in price, this is another option for them to get customers in the door.
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DAMN. Was hoping for a diesel announcement! ![Frown](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
I really really want a 335d. There's been rumors of either a 320d or a 335d. This isn't exactly what I was expecting. I also don't understand why they really need this 320i. It gets practically the same mileage as the 328i. A 320d or 335d would easily be a fuel mileage leader and turn heads. Maybe that's still coming?
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I really really want a 335d. There's been rumors of either a 320d or a 335d. This isn't exactly what I was expecting. I also don't understand why they really need this 320i. It gets practically the same mileage as the 328i. A 320d or 335d would easily be a fuel mileage leader and turn heads. Maybe that's still coming?
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New generation 2.0L and 3.0L BMW diesels have already been confirmed for the U.S. The only things that aren't known are which models and when, along with final specs on the engines.
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"Almost same" fuel economy is not even close, it looks hideous and makes me want to vomit whenever I see one (the 300), I prefer smaller and more nimble cars, and I doubt the 300 will drive nearly as well or be as engaging to drive as the 3ers can be. If I really wanted a Charger or 300 I'd go straight to the HEMI V8 or SRT models.
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At any rate, this has the same N20 engine as the 328i. With ROM flash, this car could become teh tuner's dream.
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With over 100hp more, the Charger V6 only did a 0-60 in 6.7s (C&D), hardly beating out this lowly 180hp Bimmer. That doesn't seem too impressive either.
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Have you been in an F30? It's not a compact vehicle by any means.
With over 100hp more, the Charger V6 only did a 0-60 in 6.7s (C&D), hardly beating out this lowly 180hp Bimmer. That doesn't seem too impressive either.
JB tuner for a few hundred bucks and the Charger will get killed.
With over 100hp more, the Charger V6 only did a 0-60 in 6.7s (C&D), hardly beating out this lowly 180hp Bimmer. That doesn't seem too impressive either.
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