LexFather

IS 250 never had a problem as it sold well. The only problem are people *****ing about it on the internet about a problem for them that is not a problem for people that purchased the vehicle Consumers had no issue with it. This is not to say that it could not be improved at this point.

Joeb427

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I owned an '06 IS250 and yes it was slow and I biatched about it.

ydooby

Just because there are people buying the car it doesn't mean the car couldn't have gained a lot more buyers if the car didn't feel so sluggish. And owners do complain too, just ask spwolf, and my dad (who bought the car because he liked the ML system and the general premium feel but later complained about the car's inability to overtake safely).

SteVTEC

Well.... that's what I was gonna say pretty much.

The IS250 got punked all the way back in 2006 when the E90 BMW came out and the 325i was actually a 3.0L, rated at the same 215hp (under-rated obviously), and performed way better. I was surprised that Lexus never remedied that by upping the base model to a 3.0L, but like you said they sell very well and there's plenty of them on the road everywhere, so obviously base model performance just isn't a big concern for Lexus owners.

I can appreciate the smoothness and refinement of a 6-cylinder vs a big 4 of course, but the "problem" nowadays is that the 6-cylinder is no longer even keeping up with everybody else's turbo-4's, unless of course you limit the comparison to Acuras where I'm sure the 2.5L V6 is still crushing the Acura 2.4/2.0L. I think the Lexus brand deserves better is all I'm saying. Personally I think the automotive product planners out there are concerned about making the base powerplants "too good", and thus having a lot more trouble up-selling to the higher end models. I think this is why BMW de-tuned their NA I-6 engines after their turbo I-6 came out, and why Infiniti came out with the G25 instead of a G30. As far as the F30 BMW's, I've not seen one single F30 335i on the road so far, they've ALL been 328's. Used to see a heavier mix of 335's when the 328 was the de-tuned NA I-6. Makes you wonder...

PhilipMSPT

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Most BMW's are driven by middle-aged cougars with miniature lap dogs, driving 15 miles below the speed limit. Typically, in the fast lane.

For approximately 49% of BMW drivers, the 320i will suffice.

Fizzboy7

How this car can be significantly faster than the equally "weak" IS250 is kind of interesting. I'm too lazy to look up weight differences, but maybe it's in that.

I agree, most people are non-enthusiasts and 0-60 in 7.1 seconds is plenty fast. This new BMW re-iterates the mass-market appeal of the IS250.

Joeb427

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In a quick search,the numbers are 7.4-7.9.
3435 lbs RWD.

From Edmunds...
Lexus estimates the 0-60-mph time for the rear-wheel-drive IS 250 at 7.9 seconds (the AWD version is estimated at 8.3 seconds). That's somewhat tepid for this segment, as the base versions of the Audi A4 and BMW 3 Series are quicker by nearly 2 full seconds

SteVTEC

Torque....

mrraider

This sums it up. The 4gr was competitive in 2006. In 2012, 4 cylinder NA engines are matching it, and blown 4s are stomping it. The A4 has the same HP as the 4gr, but can bust out low 6 sec times.

For the record, I too owned an IS250. I didn't biatch about it being slow, but I new it was outclassed in 2012 when I sold it.

Hoovey689

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That's because it has the GS's 6A

My0gr81

320i was available in Canada during the e46 era. They sold a ton of them, specialy as parents of certain origin bought them for their kids.

CDNROCKIES

It's still available and is already on sale up here.

RocketGuy3

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No, many people are just badge wh0res.

There is no way I would buy that car, even if I didn't care about power.

fly2low

torque and transmission programming. butter smooth for some is zzz for other while responsive for some is rough for other.

92 SC400

Is this a different N20, or some other 2.0T engine, than what it used in the X1 28i making 240hp?