2016 BMW 7-Series (G11) thread
#166
Lead Lap
Well to be fair you need to wait for the A8's redesign. Early reports have mentioned it's going to be one hell of a car. Unfortunately its development program has suffered from a litany of delays...going to be interesting to see how the final product shakes up.
#167
Lexus Fanatic
I know I should wait till the next gen A8 comes out, but my point was that the new 7 Series and S-class have been positioned one step higher than the classic flagship of the past. More like a super flagship where the current A8 does quite reach.
#168
Moderator
iTrader: (16)
S-Class and 7-Series have played their cards, and the A8, LS and XJ will soon join the party. All of which are said to shake up the segment again.
This will be one comparison shootout for the ages
#169
Lexus Fanatic
Like I said above, I went and looked at and sat in the new 7, I don't think it moves that notch higher like the S Class I agree does. It doesn't have that presence, and feels like a 7 series inside while the new S feels worlds better than the old S.
Once Audi and Lexus and Jaguar get to the party we will see how it fleshes out. That's one reason I got an LS now, I expect the new LS to be considerably more than I paid for mine, and LWB only.
In this class if $100k was what I could spend no way I would choose this new 7 over an S Class.
Once Audi and Lexus and Jaguar get to the party we will see how it fleshes out. That's one reason I got an LS now, I expect the new LS to be considerably more than I paid for mine, and LWB only.
In this class if $100k was what I could spend no way I would choose this new 7 over an S Class.
#170
A lot of S-class owners are praising the new 7-series. It definitely seems to be ahead of the S-class as far as tech goes. I prefer the S-class' flashier interior design. I'll be checking out the new 7er myself when my schedule opens up in a couple weeks.
It will be interesting to see how the market responds. The A8 is a nice car but it is incredibly boring to look at which is probably the main reason why it doesn't sell. Hopefully the next gen A8 will have more personality. The Lexus LS is at least 5 years behind the competition at this point. They haven't re-designed the LS in nearly 10 years. A couple of facelifts don't count, I still remember seeing the current LS at the 2006 Detroit Auto Show and it's barely changed. The doors are identical.
It will be interesting to see how the market responds. The A8 is a nice car but it is incredibly boring to look at which is probably the main reason why it doesn't sell. Hopefully the next gen A8 will have more personality. The Lexus LS is at least 5 years behind the competition at this point. They haven't re-designed the LS in nearly 10 years. A couple of facelifts don't count, I still remember seeing the current LS at the 2006 Detroit Auto Show and it's barely changed. The doors are identical.
#171
Lexus Fanatic
The LS needs a redesign no doubt but to say it's barely changed isn't true. Yes, the door panels are essentially the same but what you don't point out is that they are the only interior component that are essentially the same. They and maybe the headliner. Dash, console, seats, user interface, all are totally different. Outside the whole front and rear clips are different. They've kept it current as best they could without a redesign.
I'm sure this 7 will sell well, it just wouldn't get my attention over an S Class.
I'm sure this 7 will sell well, it just wouldn't get my attention over an S Class.
#172
I sat in the new 7-series when the auto show was in town a couple of months ago. I think the exterior is bland and awkwardly proportioned, but the interior is REALLY nice. Pictures I've seen don't do it justice because there are a lot of thoughtful small details that you don't notice until you sit in it. It is very well executed.
#173
Lexus Fanatic
Definitely agree there. The car is much more compelling inside than out.
#175
Lexus has a great opportunity with the LS design. S class is "classic luxury", 7 series is more or less "nothing" ( to be harsh) and I highly doubt that the new A8 will be anything spectacular based on that Audi never has made one before, regardless of model.
#177
The new 7er is pretty handsome in my opinion WHEN it has the right options (aka when it has ///M sport package).
Another interior shot for kicks:
Another interior shot for kicks:
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#178
Lexus Fanatic
The S Class is the same way IMHO, needs the sport package.
#179
Lexus Fanatic
This looks pretty amazing. The front end is good and truthfully it's better than the spindle grille. S-Class and 7 series have really done it IMO.
#180
Almost every vehicle out there looks great with huge wheels and the "right" color combo. But facts is that 75% ( at least ) looks like this
Nothing wrong with that, but far far away from those "super camera + photoshop" pictures we often see.
Nothing wrong with that, but far far away from those "super camera + photoshop" pictures we often see.