April 2013 Sales Thread
05-15-13, 07:11 AM
#92
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XTS MSRP: 44k-64k
CTS MSRP: 39k-59k
So as I said, XTS is Cadillac's most expensive sedan. Even Cadillac has the CTS-V separated on their website as a niche model, yet you think you got it right and Cadillac got it wrong?
5k difference is not "priced so similar". And yet another overgeneralized statement which could apply to any vehicle from any brand. Let me put it this way, Cadillac has positioned the XTS above the CTS and the XTS also has a higher MSRP than the CTS. It also outsold the CTS in the month of April. My point remains.
Spreading misinformation?
It's as clear as can be. Numbers don't lie. But for the sake of being just as ludicrous as your above statement, I'll say that I think it might just be possible that the XTS sedan (which has a higher MSRP aka more expensive and is positioned higher than the CTS) outsold
the CTS based on the fact that the numbers on GM's sales chart for the month of April show a higher number next to the XTS
CTS MSRP: 39k-59k
So as I said, XTS is Cadillac's most expensive sedan. Even Cadillac has the CTS-V separated on their website as a niche model, yet you think you got it right and Cadillac got it wrong?
5k difference is not "priced so similar". And yet another overgeneralized statement which could apply to any vehicle from any brand. Let me put it this way, Cadillac has positioned the XTS above the CTS and the XTS also has a higher MSRP than the CTS. It also outsold the CTS in the month of April. My point remains.
Spreading misinformation?
It's as clear as can be. Numbers don't lie. But for the sake of being just as ludicrous as your above statement, I'll say that I think it might just be possible that the XTS sedan (which has a higher MSRP aka more expensive and is positioned higher than the CTS) outsoldthe CTS based on the fact that the numbers on GM's sales chart for the month of April show a higher number next to the XTS
Lets tell Lexus F, BMW M, Audi RS, Jaguar R, Mercedes AMG etc those cars "don't count".
Hilarious
to bad people can't just admit they were wrong. Please continue making loopholes to cover misinformation!
05-15-13, 07:34 AM
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. He's right when my friend was looking for a red leather f sport there was none anywhere. Looks like they are selling existing inventory since the 2014s arrive in a couple of months 
05-15-13, 08:49 AM
#97
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It was the same crap in December when i got my 535. Each dealer had maybe 1 Fsport if ur lucky and all in AWD.
I even contacted Lexus Corporate to express my frustration.
05-15-13, 08:55 AM
#98
Lexus Test Driver
CL is great thats why i post here for over 10 years.
My comment was directed at u - stop twisting around people's posts and bickering with fellow members.
05-15-13, 09:02 AM
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No one is twisting posts and you are telling others not to bicker and you are here bickering?
. Who are you to say what is bickering anyway, its a forum people disagree and I sure as hell will try my best to correct misinformation. Unless you like misinformation.
05-15-13, 09:47 AM
#100
Lexus Test Driver
Inventory and Allocation is the same thing. I think many agree their allocation/inventory is quite mind-boggling in many cases.
Stop playing victim. You made a blanket statement about the forum when its clearly evidenced just looking at posts here or through out car chat we love other cars and brands. Don't try to play the entire forum or even me just because you don't agree with a post or two. You can ignore my posts you know.
No one is twisting posts and you are telling others not to bicker and you are here bickering?. Who are you to say what is bickering anyway, its a forum people disagree and I sure as hell will try my best to correct misinformation. Unless you like misinformation.
Stop playing victim. You made a blanket statement about the forum when its clearly evidenced just looking at posts here or through out car chat we love other cars and brands. Don't try to play the entire forum or even me just because you don't agree with a post or two. You can ignore my posts you know.
No one is twisting posts and you are telling others not to bicker and you are here bickering?
. Who are you to say what is bickering anyway, its a forum people disagree and I sure as hell will try my best to correct misinformation. Unless you like misinformation.This is what im saying about twisting around people's posts and going way off topic.
CL is a great forum and probably has least anount of fanbois.
You on the other hand need to calm down and stop starting arguments over nonsense.
05-15-13, 09:53 AM
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Show me where i said something negative about CL.
This is what im saying about twisting around people's posts and going way off topic.
CL is a great forum and probably has least anount of fanbois.
You on the other hand need to calm down and stop starting arguments over nonsense.
This is what im saying about twisting around people's posts and going way off topic.
CL is a great forum and probably has least anount of fanbois.
You on the other hand need to calm down and stop starting arguments over nonsense.
Or you can hit ignore
05-15-13, 10:01 AM
#102
Lexus Test Driver
In the future please dont respond to my posts.
Thank you
05-15-13, 12:24 PM
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Lol so instead of saying "you are right the CTS-V is more expensive" or "forgot about the CTS-V" you go on fluffy tirades trying to mask the misinformation and then try to state "oh the V model doesn't count".
Lets tell Lexus F, BMW M, Audi RS, Jaguar R, Mercedes AMG etc those cars "don't count".
Hilarious to bad people can't just admit they were wrong. Please continue making loopholes to cover misinformation!
Lets tell Lexus F, BMW M, Audi RS, Jaguar R, Mercedes AMG etc those cars "don't count".
Hilarious
to bad people can't just admit they were wrong. Please continue making loopholes to cover misinformation!The XTS is positioned higher than the CTS, and it is their most expensive sedan (outside of the niche CTS-V). Cadillac does not even include the CTS-V with the regular CTS models on their own website. Yet you keep harping on it when no one was even talking about it in the first place. Ok.
Tell those 2,891 customers who bought the XTS in April that their purchases "don't count"
05-15-13, 01:00 PM
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There is nothing to admit. You were wrong. You were wrong about the price range of the XTS which I clearly proved to you by providing links back to Cadillac's website. I find it beyond hilarious that you can't just admit that you were wrong.
The XTS is positioned higher than the CTS, and it is their most expensive sedan (outside of the niche CTS-V). Cadillac does not even include the CTS-V with the regular CTS models on their own website. Yet you keep harping on it when no one was even talking about it in the first place. Ok.
The XTS is positioned higher than the CTS, and it is their most expensive sedan (outside of the niche CTS-V). Cadillac does not even include the CTS-V with the regular CTS models on their own website. Yet you keep harping on it when no one was even talking about it in the first place. Ok.
Then you state the XTS has a higher selling price than the CTS with absolutely no evidence of this. Personally I don't really care for your lists. They are routinely non-inclusive and they leave out key data which paints a picture different from reality. The above quoted list of yours clearly demonstrates this. You include the MKS but conveniently leave out the XTS, which it directly competes with. Your list paints a different picture from reality, when in fact the XTS was the 3rd highest selling model in its class behind the 5 Series and E Class. That says a lot. But according to you, the XTS doesn't even exist.
Tell those 2,891 customers who bought the XTS in April that their purchases "don't count"
Tell those 2,891 customers who bought the XTS in April that their purchases "don't count"
If I was you, I would worry about other things than what I do. As for this thread
