Hoovey689

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Yeah, no tech package on the 2.4 6M

http://www.acura.com/tools/bap/build...pFTnxPOnxPMjp8

Just regualr 2.0 5M/5A or hybrid both can be equipped with tech

jwong77

I'm not sure simply just putting an auto gearbox onto the 2.4 will fix everything. The car just doesn't compete well with other cars in its price range. As somebody earlier indicated, the Accord Sport is a much more appealing package for slightly less money.

pbm317

Similar logic (or lack thereof) on the TL, you can't get the Advance Package with the 6MT....

TRDFantasy

Just LOL at Acura. What a laughing stock of a brand they've become.

Hoovey689

iTrader: (16)

Good grief that's even more of an insult to buyers

Hoovey689

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Acura ILX headed for Civic-like early upgrades

The not-yet-ready-for-primetime 2012 Honda Civic saw it quickly returned to sender for refurbishment, now the Acura ILX is headed in the same direction in its very first year. Automotive News reports that the small, Civic-based sedan from Honda's luxury brand isn't meeting sales expectations, with an annualized rate of 22,000 to 24,000 sales instead of the 30,000 the company is after. More telling is that the ILX "is being outsold by the Buick Verano, Volkswagen CC and Audi A4," and, except for two months since it launched, it has also been outdone by the Acura TSX it is meant to replace.

Part of the cause has been the 2.0-liter, four-cylinder engine: its 150 horsepower to motivate a sedan that can weigh up to 2,970 pounds doesn't offer the kind of performance or value experience that buyers in the segment respond to. Another big issue is that the top-level 2.4-liter engine is only offered with a six-speed manual even though most buyers of the highest trim don't really want to shift their own gears. Lastly, the ILX might not put enough space between it and its frugal underpinnings – our first drive review pegged it as "the world's nicest Honda Civic."

An automatic transmission is on the way for the 2.4-liter, but it isn't clear when. And while Honda admits that the 2.0-liter is underpowered and Automotive News says it's on the way out, the company hasn't yet said how that situation will be corrected.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/12/a...arly-upgrades/

Hoovey689

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Yeah, how about the technology package too

The ILX really needs this upgrade. The whole project is ho-hum and nothing special. Build quality is fine, it's always been a Honda/Acura strong suit, but nothing on this car stands out and it is lackluster.

jwong77

Ouch! That can't be good.

PhilipMSPT

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Honda has failed with the Crossturd and Civic (and its Acura counterparts).

I hope this doesn't compromise their automotive viability too much. They make well built cars, but with **** poor materials and engines. Cheap is cheap. They're Hyundai from 10 years ago...

GSteg

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The Civic hasn't failed because it's still selling great. It just doesn't impress the enthusiasts.

spwolf

gotta give props to Honda for fast reactions.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

the civic doesn't win our hearts, but it's still a hit.

i guess you haven't looked at the new accord, or a cr-v.

PhilipMSPT

iTrader: (5)

Nah. I'm being very specific with these two.

Every carmaker has their dud. It's just odd to see Honda with two (four including Acura) major fouls here. And especially with the Civic being an enthusiasts' car -- you don't want to alienate the brand's younger buyers, who will most likely be buying Accords and Odysseys in the future...

Hoovey689

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I do, but they need more distinction, less overlap, and they need the enthusiasm back

Fizzboy7

How many years are we going to go on having to make posts like these? I know of no other company that can continue to make major blunders and not have those behind them fired. In every other industry, you get fired over things like this. Can you imagine how much money this and the premature Civic facelift had to cost the company? I just don't get it. It's like the weatherman who can give inaccurate forecasts 50% of the year and come back the next day like everything went just fine.