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Old 08-20-13, 08:10 PM
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Default Mercedes reveals S500 plug-in hybrid, rated at three liters per 100 km

Mercedes reveals S500 plug-in hybrid, rated at three liters per 100 km



The third model in the lineup of Mercedes-Benz S-Class hybrids has arrived: the S500 Plug-in Hybrid brings with it a 0-to-62 mile-per-hour time of 5.5 seconds, 30 kilometers (nearly 19 miles) of electric-only operation and a fuel economy rating of three liters per 100 kilometers on the European cycle (78.41 mpg US, though that's not apples-to-apples). Those numbers outdo those of the second-generation S400 Hybrid and S350 BlueTEC Hybrid. In fact, that mpg figure is better than the Audi A3 1.6 TDI Ultra that was introduced earlier this month with a European rating of 3.2 liters per 100 km (73.5 mpg).

The miserly beast runs with a 3.0-liter turbocharged V6 engine tied to an 80-kilowatt electric motor, its lithium-ion batteries containing ten times the energy of those in its S-Class hybrid siblings and chargeable from a port on the rear bumper. There are four drive options, two that select between either full hybrid cruising or electric power only, and two that manage battery usage.

Also helping to manage the battery are the second-generation braking system that first uses the car's electric motor to initiate deceleration, a haptic accelerator pedal that lets a driver know when he's about to engage the combustion engine and the Intelligent Hybrid energy management system. It uses COMAND navigation data up to eight kilometers ahead of the car to oversee battery usage, adjusting how the electric assistance system is used based the likely of the route.

New S 500 PLUG-IN HYBRID: The S-Class as a "three litres per 100 kilometres" car

Stuttgart/Frankfurt, Aug 20, 2013 - The third hybrid model of the new S-Class, the S 500 PLUG-IN HYBRID, sets new benchmarks with regard to efficiency as well as drive-system and climate comfort. With 69 g CO2 per kilometre (3 litres/100 km) the S-Class sets a new benchmark for luxury saloons that just a few years ago was thought virtually impossible. The 80-kW electric drive with externally rechargeable battery makes emission-free driving for about 30 km possible. It is combined with the new 3.0-litre V6 turbocharged engine. Mercedes-Benz will present the S 500 PLUG-IN HYBRID at the Frankfurt Motor Show (IAA). The market launch will be next year.

The S 400 HYBRID was the first in the world to feature a standard-specification hybrid drive system with lithium-ion battery in 2009. With the new S-Class Mercedes-Benz expands the hybrid line-up in this model series to three models: the S 400 HYBRID, S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID and S 500 PLUG-IN HYBRID. All second-generation hybrid drive systems share the seamless integration into the powertrain. The combustion engine can be completely decoupled from the electric motor. Further features are the second-generation recuperative braking system and the anticipatory

Intelligent HYBRID energy management system
"With the S 500 PLUG-IN HYBRID Mercedes-Benz sets another milestone on the road to emission-free mobility on the basis of our modular hybrid matrix", explains Prof Dr Thomas Weber, responsible on the Daimler Board of Management for Group Research and Head of Mercedes-Benz Cars Product Engineering. "In this way the S-Class turns into a genuine three-litre car with generous space and superlative drive-system comfort."

While the batteries of the S 400 HYBRID and S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID as autonomous hybrids are charged during braking or coasting or by the combustion engine, the new high-voltage lithium-ion battery of the S 500 PLUG-IN HYBRID has ten times the energy content and offers the option of being recharged from an external source with a charging socket located on the right side of the rear bumper. With the help of the electric synchronous motor (80 kW/340 Nm) the S-Class can thus drive for up to around 30 kilometres on electric power alone.

Four hybrid operating modes can be selected at the push of a button:

- HYBRID
- E-MODE: electric power only
- E-SAVE: fully charged battery is reserved to be able to drive on electric power alone later
- CHARGE: battery is charged while driving

Under the conditions specified by the certification rules the S-Class as a full hybrid generates 69 g CO2 per kilometre. With consumption equivalent to 3 litres per 100 kilometres the S-Class sets a new benchmark for luxury saloons that just a few years ago was thought virtually impossible. It delivers these top values without restrictions in power, passenger comfort or operating range and offers a high level of climate comfort thanks to the pre-entry climate control functions.

The most important benchmark data of the S 500 PLUG-IN HYBRID:

- Power output of 245 kW of the combustion engine plus 80-kW electric motor and torque of 480 Nm of the combustion engine plus 340 Nm of the electric motor
- Overall consumption (NEDC) 69 g CO2/km (3.0 l/100 km)
- Operating range on electric power alone about 30 km
- Top speed 250 km/h, 0-100 km/h in 5.5 sec.
- Intelligent HYBRID: anticipatory energy management system with optimal use of recuperation during deceleration
- Individualisation possible as the result of the combination of the transmission modes with the four hybrid operating modes – HYBRID, E‑MODE, E-SAVE and CHARGE.
- Haptic accelerator pedal for superior vehicle control: A point of resistance on the accelerator pedal provides feedback about the activation of the combustion engine and helps in metering the power output.
- Fast external charging of the high-voltage traction battery
- Pre-entry climate control of the interior

Intelligent HYBRID: anticipatory energy management system
The second-generation S-Class hybrids feature an anticipatory energy management system and thereby improve energy efficiency. The operating strategy of the hybrid drive system not only accounts for the current driving condition and driver input, but also adjusts to the likely route (inclines, downhill stretches, bends or speed limits) for the next eight kilometres. Intelligent HYBRID uses the navigation data from COMAND Online to manage the charging and discharging of the high-voltage battery. The goal is, for example, to use the energy content of the battery for propulsion ahead of a downhill stretch in order to recharge it while going downhill using recuperation.

Recuperative braking system: the electric motor as alternator
The largest potential for lowering the energy consumption of hybrid drive systems lies in maximising energy recovery during coasting and braking. Upon depressing the brake pedal the deceleration is initially effected by the electric motor and not by the disc brakes. The new S-Class is the first to use a recuperative braking system (RBS) of the second generation. It ensures an unnoticeable overlapping of the conventional mechanical brakes and the electric braking performance of the electric motor in alternator mode.

The driver's desired braking power is recorded by a pedal-travel sensor. The deceleration is dependent on the driving condition and is split into a recuperative brake-force portion and a portion to be supplied by the wheel brakes. The brake pressure on the rear axle is controlled by the RBS dependent on the current recuperation potential of the powertrain.

In addition, the combustion engine is switched off any time the vehicle is coasting and its drag torque when rolling is used by the electric motor as recuperation torque. However, without depressing the brake pedal no additional deceleration torque is provided for charging the battery and the vehicle can "sail". The combustion engine is to be used for charging the battery as little as possible and only at suitable and most efficient operating points.
Hybrid pioneer in the luxury segment

The world's first standard-specification hybrid drive with lithium-ion battery debuted at Mercedes-Benz as early as 2009: the S 400 HYBRID was the most fuel-efficient petrol-powered luxury saloon for a long time. And the most successful hybrid in its segment: some 20,000 buyers worldwide opted for the S 400 HYBRID.

With the new S-Class Mercedes-Benz now continues its comprehensive hybrid offensive. In the S 400 HYBRID and S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID there are already two hybrids of the new S-Class to choose from:

- The new S 400 HYBRID burns just 6.3 litres of fuel per 100 kilometres in the NEDC cycle (combined). This represents a reduction by 20 per cent over the predecessor. CO2 emissions of 147 grams per kilometre also represent a new record in this vehicle segment. These exemplary figures go hand in hand with outstanding performance potential: the petrol engine develops 225 kW (306 hp), while the electric motor adds another 20 kW (27 hp). The torque of the combustion engine is 370 Nm plus 250 Nm from the electric motor.

- In the S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID Mercedes-Benz has combined the 2.2‑litre four-cylinder diesel engine developing 150 kW (204 hp) with the powerful hybrid module developing 20 kW (27 hp). The peak torque of 500 Nm produced by the combustion engine is overlaid by the 250 Nm of peak torque produced by the electric motor. The S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID makes do with 4.4 litres per 100 km in the combined cycle (CO2: 115 g/km) and complies with the criteria for energy efficiency class A+. Consequently Mercedes-Benz has, over the course of ten years, nearly cut fuel consumption in the 150-kW performance class by half.
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/08/20/m...brid-official/
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Old 08-20-13, 10:44 PM
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The more I read about the new S the more I realize they are kind of the ultimate high end car in many ways. One hell of a car with the most cutting edge tech the market can offer.
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gotta love faking the EU regulations with plugin hybrids.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
gotta love faking the EU regulations with plugin hybrids.
True to that. I don't know if EU cycle is adjusted for PHEV or not but manufacturers are abusing it. I don't know how marketing people at MB feel about themselves when they know this is pure bs, I would not even approve this kind of message. This car will be considered achievement if it consumes 13l/100km in city driving once the battery runs out.

Problem is all fuel efficiency cycles have one routine how they measure up, in other words they have the best possible scenario of the fuel efficiency spectrum so manufacturers know how to get most of it.

Even with normal hybrids all they have to do is setup the car according to the cycle and voila you have a GS450h that is rated 6l/100km when reality is 8 and fuel rating of 450h is considered one of the most honest examples in advertised fuel economy and its still off by 30%.
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why is this 'fake' or 'pure bs' guys?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
why is this 'fake' or 'pure bs' guys?
it gets that mileage because it has 20 miles in EV mode... otherwise, it gets 3x worse mpg.

And if anything, S class is not a car for 20 miles :-).

but lots of EU countries have these CO2/MPG based taxes, so instead of 15%-20% tax, it gets 0% tax... as you can imagine, it is extensive savings on €100k car.
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p.s. I just saw one pass by.... it was one of the bluetec diesels... white... looked royal.
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wow pretty amazing video of the s65, that's quick. and looks like it has pretty good body control too

Originally Posted by I8ABMR
The more I read about the new S the more I realize they are kind of the ultimate high end car in many ways. One hell of a car with the most cutting edge tech the market can offer.
can't say about the new one yet, but the w221 i had, yup quite a car. i have to say, now that we have sold the w221 for a year. in terms of car, both me and my wife we kind of miss the s550 more than our ls460l. not saying ls460l is bad at all (and it's a great car), but something about driving the s...
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Now I really regret why I bought my 7 in April. Could have waited for this beauty.

Well, guess I will buy this when my lease is up.
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
Now I really regret why I bought my 7 in April. Could have waited for this beauty.

Well, guess I will buy this when my lease is up.
probably no good deals on the lease anyway for the first year
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
Now I really regret why I bought my 7 in April. Could have waited for this beauty.

Well, guess I will buy this when my lease is up.
Gives them time to iron out the issues so it's by the time you're ready
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Originally Posted by rominl
wow pretty amazing video of the s65, that's quick. and looks like it has pretty good body control too



can't say about the new one yet, but the w221 i had, yup quite a car. i have to say, now that we have sold the w221 for a year. in terms of car, both me and my wife we kind of miss the s550 more than our ls460l. not saying ls460l is bad at all (and it's a great car), but something about driving the s...
Its always been a dream for me to own one. I just always get worried about reliability and depreciation. What I have learned from you is that they are better than they used to be. The depreciation thing is what it is
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Originally Posted by I8ABMR
Its always been a dream for me to own one. I just always get worried about reliability and depreciation. What I have learned from you is that they are better than they used to be. The depreciation thing is what it is
they are getting better i think, but my doubts are not entirely out. to be honest if i have the mean, i would just lease one for 2-3 years, that's the best option. after that it's still a roll of dice imho
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I swear, the S65 AMG LWB is like a PREMIUM PERFORMANCE WET DREAM

And then if I have one, I can use the car to run over any Greenpeace eco-extremist that wants to eliminate 12 cylinder engines from existence.

Before that happens, I'd rather wipe out their existence first
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Default 2014 Mercedes S65 AMG caught undisguised at video shoot

2014 Mercedes S65 AMG caught undisguised at video shoot



Hot on the heels of a video showing Mercedes-Benz testing its 2014 S65 AMG sedan around the Nürburgring, here's yet another glimpse of the German automaker's luxury flagship sedan, which is set to go on sale in March of 2014. Though the new S65 AMG won't be officially unveiled until this November's LA Auto Show, eagle-eyed Gnepiah caught it naked on camera during a recent commercial shoot in the Netherlands.

The video shows a few exterior modifications as compared to the outgoing model, including more chrome on the front grille, shiny mesh on the front bumper, and new multi-spoke alloy wheels. But the most exciting change is one we can't see: the S65 AMG's 6.0-liter twin-turbo V12 engine, which is expected to produce more than the current model's 621 horsepower and will certainly make for a quicker ride close to 3.6 seconds).


http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/02/2...sguised-video/
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