yowps3

Honestly it doesn't look too bad. But Acura is stupid for ignoring those little touches that would have greatly enhanced the overall appearance ; example dual chrome exhuast tips amongst other things!

Fizzboy7

LOL!!! R-E-A-R overhang, not front! Acura got it backward.

mmarshall

Well, true, the TLX's arrival alone is not the only reason. The ILX, though well-built like all Acuras, didn't have the refinement or sound-insulation a proper entry-level premium/luxury sedan should have....it essentially drove like a more expensive Civic. In addition, the competing Buick Verano (which DID do the refinement/sound-insulation right) and the new Audi A3 sedan simply blew it away in sales.

bagwell

short overhangs are a good thing - front AND rear - stretching the wheel base allows more interior/cabin space.

mmarshall

I won't get into good and bad, necessarily, because each person's preferences in a car are different....and your preferences are, of course, respected. Stretching the wheelbase does, in some cases, allow for more interior room (especially with FWD), and also, in some cases, a smoother ride. But it also can increase the turning radius and decrease maneuverability. And it leaves less crush-space for the from/t/rear sheet metal in crash-protection. Short overhangs, though, help handling/manuverability by taking weight off both the front and rear ends....but generally take away from ride comfort.

Longer overhangs, in contrast, (all else equal) increase trunk space, allow more room up front for larger engines, and contribute to a smoother ride by increasing the percentage of sprung weight/ and decreasing percentage of unsprung weight over the front/rear suspension. That's why cars designed primarily for a smooth ride, like the Lincoln Town Car and Cadillac DTS, had such long overhangs.

LexFather

$299 a month is going to attract legions of loyal fans and tons of Accord owners. That is super aggressive. The ILX can be leased for no joke $159 or $199 a month so I doubt it effects sales.

What is crazy as someone mentioned is you can get a loaded ILX for 31k or a base tlx for 31k. The ILX looks like even more of a joke. To think the hybrid was 35k

Tlx pricing under 40k seems very good, that is loaded accord money.

bagwell

hummm, pretty sure a shorter wheelbase contributes to less comfort, more bouncy ride

Sulu

Yet, the ILX (after a slow start) seems to be doing relatively well here in Southern Ontario, Canada, if my sightings of it on the roads is any indication. But the ILX's predecessors, the EL (starting from 1996) and the CSX (starting from 2005) did well also. They sold well, despite the fact that they were nothing more than expensive, dressed-up Civics that sold for about the same as the much better Accord.

Canadians, however, value smaller cars (the Civic has been the best-selling car here for more than a decade now) more than larger vehicles, so the ILX was probably a low risk for Canada but a (much) higher risk south of the border.

mmarshall

Yes, all else equal, it does. I thought I made that clear....if not, sorry for the misunderstanding.

But longer overhangs WITH a short wheelbase may, in some instances, smooth the ride by lessening the unsprung weight on the suspension. Depends on a number of factors.

LexFather

^^^ ILX had a sales target of 40k a year. It sold maybe 20k and continues to drop. It's only a year old. And it's a 25k-35k car.

mmarshall

If you remember, when I reviewed the ILX two years ago, I questioned, at that time, why Acura needed two FWD entry-level sedans (discounting the TSX Sportwagon). I predicted then that one of them might (?) cannnibalize the other one. With the ILX, it not only had TLX sales breathing down its neck, but also the Verano and A3.

bagwell

ahhh I re-read your post....my bad....

doge

Tell that to the purists, some considered that car and abomination. To them the e46 was the best lol..

Mike_1GO

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I recently began working for an acura dealership. the ILX does not sell well at all. we keep very few in stock. the RDX and MDX sell well. Lexus imo, is a few classes above Acura. No acura that I have driven have I said WOW. And I think the new TLX wont be any different. they ride hard and don't have lexus smoothness. I much prefer my IS350 to any Acura.

doge

ILX was a Flop, my buddy has a TSX and for the money its a very nice car (rides a little rough)

I really want this car to succeed