A Few Engines We will Never See in an American Production Car
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A Few Engines We will Never See in an American Production Car
After a thread I read this morning, I started to think about the engines that I am kinda Butt-hurt about that will never have been and never will be Put in an American Off the Lot Production Car. Feel free to chime in if anyone has any input!
Toyota/Lexus
3GR-FSE V6
Hell yeah Im going to be mad that lexus/Toyota is hiding the 3GR-FSE over there. The supercharged 3.0L is kind of boss and I feel if they brought this engine over to america, A LOT more companies would be be making a lot more performance parts for engine builds. I kind feel like I'm stuck with an engine that I can't do anything with other than Intake and exhaust which kind of pisses me off a bit. I feel like these V6 engines can have a lot of potential
2JZ-FSE I6
Now I know your thinking WTF?!? we already have the 2JZ but technically we don't The 2JZ-FSE Is 100% identical to the 2JZ-GE/GTE that came in the supra's/SC's but the FSE has different transmission mounting points for the AWD drive train. and YES, THE SAME TRANSMISSION AS THE IS250/350 AWD. Too bad the 2JZ ended production but its wishful thinking
Honda
N22A Turbo Diesel I4
I really REALLY love honda but I'm going to give them the big F*** YOU on this one hiding this gem for years. They were hiding this 2.2 L turbo diesel that was getting 32 city/51 Highway for YEARS. Sitting here in a gas crisis and they don't even have the decency to share. Its not Much of a performance engine but still, I would drive an accord diesel faster than a prius
Nissan
RB26TT I6
Lets be Honest, we know we got F'd with the skyline. They have had this engine out since the late 80's and still never shared with the american markets. Even when they brought the skyline over, the engine still stayed. Yeah Nissan... F*** YOU! GIVE US THE GTR, ALL OF THEM
These are just a few I can think of off the top of my head but I don't know many german/korean/british cars enough to say why not so feel free to add to the list
Toyota/Lexus
3GR-FSE V6
Hell yeah Im going to be mad that lexus/Toyota is hiding the 3GR-FSE over there. The supercharged 3.0L is kind of boss and I feel if they brought this engine over to america, A LOT more companies would be be making a lot more performance parts for engine builds. I kind feel like I'm stuck with an engine that I can't do anything with other than Intake and exhaust which kind of pisses me off a bit. I feel like these V6 engines can have a lot of potential
2JZ-FSE I6
Now I know your thinking WTF?!? we already have the 2JZ but technically we don't The 2JZ-FSE Is 100% identical to the 2JZ-GE/GTE that came in the supra's/SC's but the FSE has different transmission mounting points for the AWD drive train. and YES, THE SAME TRANSMISSION AS THE IS250/350 AWD. Too bad the 2JZ ended production but its wishful thinking
Honda
N22A Turbo Diesel I4
I really REALLY love honda but I'm going to give them the big F*** YOU on this one hiding this gem for years. They were hiding this 2.2 L turbo diesel that was getting 32 city/51 Highway for YEARS. Sitting here in a gas crisis and they don't even have the decency to share. Its not Much of a performance engine but still, I would drive an accord diesel faster than a prius
Nissan
RB26TT I6
Lets be Honest, we know we got F'd with the skyline. They have had this engine out since the late 80's and still never shared with the american markets. Even when they brought the skyline over, the engine still stayed. Yeah Nissan... F*** YOU! GIVE US THE GTR, ALL OF THEM
These are just a few I can think of off the top of my head but I don't know many german/korean/british cars enough to say why not so feel free to add to the list
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Toyota 1KD-FTV 4 cylinder turbo diesel. Used in the Hilux and Land Cruiser Prado 170hp/260lb-ft torque, great efficiency. Really wish we had that one here on the Tacoma.
There are any number of 1.0-1.5 liter petrol and diesel engines in Europe that will never make it here, mainly because Americans don't want something like a Fiat Panda that takes 15 seconds to get from 0-60.
There are any number of 1.0-1.5 liter petrol and diesel engines in Europe that will never make it here, mainly because Americans don't want something like a Fiat Panda that takes 15 seconds to get from 0-60.
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IF EVER this V12 TDI Diesel engine will return in the next-gen Q7, then it is highly likely that it will be Euro-6 compatible.............and as such, it will also be compatible with US EPA and California Emission standards.
Hence, if that were to happen, then I expect that next-gen Q7 will have a V12 TDI version..........and the North American continent (USA + Canada) will serve as one of the biggest V12 diesel markets outside of Europe.
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Toyota 1KD-FTV 4 cylinder turbo diesel. Used in the Hilux and Land Cruiser Prado 170hp/260lb-ft torque, great efficiency. Really wish we had that one here on the Tacoma.
There are any number of 1.0-1.5 liter petrol and diesel engines in Europe that will never make it here, mainly because Americans don't want something like a Fiat Panda that takes 15 seconds to get from 0-60.
There are any number of 1.0-1.5 liter petrol and diesel engines in Europe that will never make it here, mainly because Americans don't want something like a Fiat Panda that takes 15 seconds to get from 0-60.
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The supercharged 3GR-FSE in the Mark X makes something like 320hp, so not really much more than the 2GR-FSE. I'm sure it makes more torque at significantly lower rpm, though, so that's where the big performance advantage should be. While I'd love to see that engine in the US, I'm not sure what they'd put it in or how they would market it and position it within the brand(s).
The base, non-supercharged 3GR-FSE makes something like 250hp. Nothing spectacular out of 3L, but nothing bad either.
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The 3GR-FSE is longitudinal (as is the 2GR-FSE). Remember that the Evora was designed as transverse, so it is a supercharged 2GR-FE - it can't use the 2GR-FSE or 3GR-FSE.
The supercharged 3GR-FSE in the Mark X makes something like 320hp, so not really much more than the 2GR-FSE. I'm sure it makes more torque at significantly lower rpm, though, so that's where the big performance advantage should be. While I'd love to see that engine in the US, I'm not sure what they'd put it in or how they would market it and position it within the brand(s).
The base, non-supercharged 3GR-FSE makes something like 250hp. Nothing spectacular out of 3L, but nothing bad either.
The supercharged 3GR-FSE in the Mark X makes something like 320hp, so not really much more than the 2GR-FSE. I'm sure it makes more torque at significantly lower rpm, though, so that's where the big performance advantage should be. While I'd love to see that engine in the US, I'm not sure what they'd put it in or how they would market it and position it within the brand(s).
The base, non-supercharged 3GR-FSE makes something like 250hp. Nothing spectacular out of 3L, but nothing bad either.
And I was suprised about the 2JZ-FSE. I found out about it crossing a japanese forum from that guy who has the 2JZ AWD Aristo. For those who want to do a 2JZ swap in the AWD should look for this motor but is going to be almost impossible to find because no one in the US uses the transmission that mates to it. Until now at least
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The 3GR-FSE is longitudinal (as is the 2GR-FSE). Remember that the Evora was designed as transverse, so it is a supercharged 2GR-FE - it can't use the 2GR-FSE or 3GR-FSE.
The supercharged 3GR-FSE in the Mark X makes something like 320hp, so not really much more than the 2GR-FSE. I'm sure it makes more torque at significantly lower rpm, though, so that's where the big performance advantage should be. While I'd love to see that engine in the US, I'm not sure what they'd put it in or how they would market it and position it within the brand(s).
The base, non-supercharged 3GR-FSE makes something like 250hp. Nothing spectacular out of 3L, but nothing bad either.
The supercharged 3GR-FSE in the Mark X makes something like 320hp, so not really much more than the 2GR-FSE. I'm sure it makes more torque at significantly lower rpm, though, so that's where the big performance advantage should be. While I'd love to see that engine in the US, I'm not sure what they'd put it in or how they would market it and position it within the brand(s).
The base, non-supercharged 3GR-FSE makes something like 250hp. Nothing spectacular out of 3L, but nothing bad either.
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Honda had actually promised that same exact 2.2L turbodiesel engine in the Accord and possibly other U.S. cars year ago, but turned out to be yet more empty promises from Honda. A pity.
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