NYC motorcycle gang ride altercation with family in SUV
10-02-13, 12:32 PM
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À couple of points, first the RR driver was very nice not to knock over a bunch more of these attackers I think he could have gotten off with out being charged, but he really wasn't tring to injure more attackers just trying to get away.
I think, it was fortunate he was in a RR or something so he was better able to escape, who knows what wold have happened if he had not got into a populated area where the animals could be scattered before they finished their dirty work?
Lastly, how is it possible for there not to have been more police presence when surely this was going on not just this one incidence.
I think, it was fortunate he was in a RR or something so he was better able to escape, who knows what wold have happened if he had not got into a populated area where the animals could be scattered before they finished their dirty work?
Lastly, how is it possible for there not to have been more police presence when surely this was going on not just this one incidence.
10-02-13, 12:33 PM
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À couple of points, first the RR driver was very nice not to knock over a bunch more of these attackers I think he could have gotten off with out being charged, but he really wasn't tring to injure more attackers just trying to get away.
I think, it was fortunate he was in a RR or something so he was better able to escape, who knows what wold have happened if he had not got into a populated area where the animals could be scattered before they finished their dirty work?
Lastly, how is it possible for there not to have been more police presence when surely this was going on not just this one incidence.
I think, it was fortunate he was in a RR or something so he was better able to escape, who knows what wold have happened if he had not got into a populated area where the animals could be scattered before they finished their dirty work?
Lastly, how is it possible for there not to have been more police presence when surely this was going on not just this one incidence.
10-02-13, 12:36 PM
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Did you see what it looked like when the RR ran over the bike and biker. It looked horrible. Assuming these bikers are close -- the adrenaline must have shot through them like a jolt of speed. If you're part of human nature -- you're capable of doing anything anyone else has done if put in the same circumstances. I'm not defending him or the driver but this driver was lucky he got off with his life given the anger, adrenaline, testosterone, and peer pressure at work there. Bad men would not have stopped with a slashing or broken windows. Trust me on that one.
10-02-13, 12:42 PM
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Please don't call these people bikers or riders, they are nothing more than thug punks. I ride a sport bike and I would never dream of doing something like this. I bought the bike to enjoy back roads and to take to places such as the tail of the dragon. What these punks are doing does nothing but bring negative attention to all of us that ride sport bikes. Most of us would never do this crap. Unfortunately this is the sickening stuff that makes the news.
For what it is worth, on the motorcycle forums 95% of the people are smart enough to know it was the thugs fault. I would have done the exact same thing the SUV driver did, anything possible to get my family out of risk.
For what it is worth, on the motorcycle forums 95% of the people are smart enough to know it was the thugs fault. I would have done the exact same thing the SUV driver did, anything possible to get my family out of risk.
As they say a few bad apples spoil the bunch, or what I mean like the mass gun shooters bring a bad name to all people who own guns.
But I could see there might come a time where these bikes could be banned or fitted with tracking devices that would pinpoint their location to see if they are in a swarm and identify the bikes who were in participation. I know it would be a bad thing for all riders to be punished for the few bad ones. But it can happen if these high profile events keep up.
Any dirt bike or ATV on the public street should be seized and destroyed and any rider hiding or removing their plates should be considered and tried as a criminal period, End of story,
You are not allowed to possess a gun in NYC you could easily pass a law to say its illegal to drive a bike without tags showing and or can't drive a dirt bike on public roads and its mandatory jail. They did it with hand guns already.
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10-02-13, 12:44 PM
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They attacked the car and put a lot of people in danger. That's bad men in my book. Who knew what they would have done had the cops not shown up. And if you read the story, when the cops came, all the good men on bikes fled the scene. Yeah they're not bad at all.
10-02-13, 12:45 PM
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Thanks for posting, I agree but I do see too many *** hats riding these sports bikes irresponsibly and likely no cop car in the world could catch them.
As they say a few bad apples spoil the bunch, or what I mean like the mass gun shooters bring a bad name to all people who own guns.
But I could see there might come a time where these bikes could be banned or fitted with tracking devices that would pinpoint their location to see if they are in a swarm and identify the bikes who were in participation. I know it would be a bad thing for all riders to be punished for the few bad ones. But it can happen if these high profile events keep up.
Any dirt bike or ATV on the public street should be seized and destroyed and any rider hiding or removing their plates should be considered and tried as a criminal period, End of story,
You are not allowed to possess a gun in NYC you could easily pass a law to say its illegal to drive a bike without tags showing and or can't drive a dirt bike on public roads and its mandatory jail. They did it with hand guns they can easily do it with spot bikes.
As they say a few bad apples spoil the bunch, or what I mean like the mass gun shooters bring a bad name to all people who own guns.
But I could see there might come a time where these bikes could be banned or fitted with tracking devices that would pinpoint their location to see if they are in a swarm and identify the bikes who were in participation. I know it would be a bad thing for all riders to be punished for the few bad ones. But it can happen if these high profile events keep up.
Any dirt bike or ATV on the public street should be seized and destroyed and any rider hiding or removing their plates should be considered and tried as a criminal period, End of story,
You are not allowed to possess a gun in NYC you could easily pass a law to say its illegal to drive a bike without tags showing and or can't drive a dirt bike on public roads and its mandatory jail. They did it with hand guns they can easily do it with spot bikes.
10-02-13, 12:50 PM
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Did one of these punks cut the drivers face?? I thought I read report that said he had 2 black eyes. Thats nuts if they took a knife to his face. The fact that they did attack in the end just justifies the guy running the bikers over to get away. So happy there will be justice. When I saw the video initially it seemed like the biker posted it to get sympathy and it blew up in their faces
10-02-13, 12:53 PM
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I can't really disagree with any of that. I will say that I would never run from the cops, it isn't worth it to me to risk my life, a cop's life, or anyone else's life to avoid getting a ticket. I would rather listen to my wife yell at me over it than have her identify my body. As proof, I received my first ticket in 20 years last week while I was on the bike. I deserved it, no reason to run. With that said, I am going to do everything I can to get it reduced.
I don't mind bike riders, many are very nice and courteous, particularly these weekend Harley riders. I just think there is a time and place for everything as you said cruising the dragon, but not like these guys I have seen the 'deleted' videos where they are running red lights and splitting lanes against traffic
and etc... All with innocent drivers on the road and no doubt children as well were in danger.
10-02-13, 01:01 PM
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Update summary from yesterday:
http://www.gtspirit.com/2013/10/01/u...port-incident/
"Yesterday we reported an incident that occurred in New York over the weekend involving a bike gang and a Range Rover Sport. The entire event was captured on video and now multiple sources are reporting that the biker we saw who caused the original accident, 28 year old Christopher Cruz, has been arrested. Cruz is set to be charged with menacing, reckless endangerment and endangering the welfare of a child.
The identity of the Range Rover Sport driver has been confirmed as 33 year old Alexian Lien who was travelling with his wife Rosalyn Ng, and their 2-year-old daughter. Its thought that around 30 bikers followed the Range Rover following the incident. The event, an annual ride from Brooklyn to Times Square known as Hollywood Block Party, had been organised by a man known as Hollywood Stuntz. Police had been monitoring the event and arrested 15 bikers, confiscated 55 motorcycles and issued 68 summonses.
It is being reported that one of the bikers, 32 year old Edwin Mieses was taken to hospital following the incident. He is currently in a critical condition, having sustained broken legs. Doctors have placed Mieses in a medically-induced coma at St. Luke’s-Roosevelt Hospital. There is some suggestion he could have been paralysed by the accident.
The driver of the Range Rover Sport, Alexander Lien sustained knife wounds to his face. He was admitted to hospital for treatment. He received stitches before being discharged. Police are still searching for the two bikers who carried out the attack. Lien was not expected to be charged, but the police department is still investigating the incident.
Almost all of the bikers involved had their numberplates removed. Many were not even registered for the road or even road-legal. The videos below show that on past events, and on this weekend’s event, violence had broken out. Sources suggest that last year an incident occurred between a bus and a rider when the rider smashed the rear window with a crowbar. The video below shows those involved riding on the pavements and even attacking a Prius driver. Seems as though the whole event was an accident waiting to happen… "
http://www.gtspirit.com/2013/10/01/u...port-incident/
"Yesterday we reported an incident that occurred in New York over the weekend involving a bike gang and a Range Rover Sport. The entire event was captured on video and now multiple sources are reporting that the biker we saw who caused the original accident, 28 year old Christopher Cruz, has been arrested. Cruz is set to be charged with menacing, reckless endangerment and endangering the welfare of a child.
The identity of the Range Rover Sport driver has been confirmed as 33 year old Alexian Lien who was travelling with his wife Rosalyn Ng, and their 2-year-old daughter. Its thought that around 30 bikers followed the Range Rover following the incident. The event, an annual ride from Brooklyn to Times Square known as Hollywood Block Party, had been organised by a man known as Hollywood Stuntz. Police had been monitoring the event and arrested 15 bikers, confiscated 55 motorcycles and issued 68 summonses.
It is being reported that one of the bikers, 32 year old Edwin Mieses was taken to hospital following the incident. He is currently in a critical condition, having sustained broken legs. Doctors have placed Mieses in a medically-induced coma at St. Luke’s-Roosevelt Hospital. There is some suggestion he could have been paralysed by the accident.
The driver of the Range Rover Sport, Alexander Lien sustained knife wounds to his face. He was admitted to hospital for treatment. He received stitches before being discharged. Police are still searching for the two bikers who carried out the attack. Lien was not expected to be charged, but the police department is still investigating the incident.
Almost all of the bikers involved had their numberplates removed. Many were not even registered for the road or even road-legal. The videos below show that on past events, and on this weekend’s event, violence had broken out. Sources suggest that last year an incident occurred between a bus and a rider when the rider smashed the rear window with a crowbar. The video below shows those involved riding on the pavements and even attacking a Prius driver. Seems as though the whole event was an accident waiting to happen… "
10-02-13, 01:06 PM
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when people are in large groups, especially stupid ones, anything no matter how small it is will set them off. They are just looking for any excuse no matter how small to go off on someone. Too bad they messed with someone that fought back and didnt roll over. Now the cops are going to crack down on gatherings like this hard due to the publicity.
on the pictures of the SUV at the beating the passenger side window is shattered, meaning they tried to attack his wife/child directly as well.
on the pictures of the SUV at the beating the passenger side window is shattered, meaning they tried to attack his wife/child directly as well.
10-02-13, 01:09 PM
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I hear you. I have got a few tickets in my M3 but really not anything more than 15 over the speed limit. But I don't complain and hopefully I was not endangering anyone.
I don't mind bike riders, many are very nice and courteous, particularly these weekend Harley riders. I just think there is a time and place for everything as you said cruising the dragon, but not like these guys I have seen the 'deleted' videos where they are running red lights and splitting lanes against traffic and etc... All with innocent drivers on the road and no doubt children as well were in danger.
I don't mind bike riders, many are very nice and courteous, particularly these weekend Harley riders. I just think there is a time and place for everything as you said cruising the dragon, but not like these guys I have seen the 'deleted' videos where they are running red lights and splitting lanes against traffic
and etc... All with innocent drivers on the road and no doubt children as well were in danger.I am certainly not complaining. I have gotten away with speeding in all types of vehicles for 20 years. Eventually I had to get caught.
10-02-13, 01:11 PM
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when people are in large groups, especially stupid ones, anything no matter how small it is will set them off. They are just looking for any excuse no matter how small to go off on someone. Too bad they messed with someone that fought back and didnt roll over. Now the cops are going to crack down on gatherings like this hard due to the publicity.
on the pictures of the SUV at the beating the passenger side window is shattered, meaning they tried to attack his wife/child directly as well.
on the pictures of the SUV at the beating the passenger side window is shattered, meaning they tried to attack his wife/child directly as well.
One thing I have read, I cannot verify, is that these gangs will do this to a nice vehicle, stop in front of them, get hit, then surround the vehicle and demand money from the occupants. It is basically a scam.
I can't say that is true but it does make some sense. No matter what, stop in front of enough vehicles while on a motorcycle you will eventually regret it.