2015 Lincoln MKC
02-07-14, 05:11 PM
#46
Lexus Fanatic
The MKX is not really that large of an SUV to start with. (it is, in fact, mostly a rebadged/upscale Ford Edge). But, yes, the MKC is a little smaller (it is based on the smaller Ford Escape platform)...and, IMO, is both styled and designed better inside and out.
02-07-14, 05:28 PM
#47
Lexus Fanatic
Well, the new RDX probably sells because Acura addressed some of the excessive sport-orientation of the old one, and made the 2Gen version more palatable to a wider range of buyers. The old one was one of very few American-market Honda/Acura fours with low-RPM torque (probably because of the turbo), and would push you back hard in your seat in the lower gears. But the throttle, in some ways, was like an on/off switch, and the overly-stiff suspension took bumps like a go-kart. The new 2Gen version utilizes a more refined V6 and more civilized underpinnings.
No arguments there.
This Lincoln is another CUV far better, it really looks great.
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-07-14 at 05:32 PM.
02-07-14, 05:41 PM
#48
Lexus Test Driver
A very nice effort by Lincoln. The modern and smooth styling should age well. My only gripes include the nerdy minivan front triangle windows and a center stack that is too tall and prominent. I'm also not reading good reviews on the pushbutton transmission.
02-07-14, 05:50 PM
#49
Lexus Fanatic
Yep....and neither one of them is selling. On top of that, they dropped the one car they had that DID sell.....the Town Car. 
Lincoln management now seems to be admitting that was a mistake.
They pretty much have to keep the Navigator around as a competitor to the Cadillac Escalade/GMC Yukon Denali, Lexus LX, Infiniti QX56, Audi Q7, Mercedes GL, Range Rover Sport, and BMW X5. The MKX, I admit, is not very impressive, but at least it gives Lincoln a shot in the luxury mid-sized SUV field....and, IMO, doesn't look quite as awkward as the larger MKT. The MKT, IMO, could probably be dropped.....to me, it looks awkward front and rear, is not selling well, and I wasn't that impressed with the performance of the one I sampled with the turbo Ecoboost V6. But, I'll admit, the MKT does have some fans....I think one of the staff here on CL owns one (but I can't remember who).
The MKC, of course, has the potential to open up a whole new field for Lincoln.......one that it has never dealt in before. It should also take some sales away from the overly-chunky-looking Cadillac SRX.
Lincoln management now seems to be admitting that was a mistake.
and 4 utility vehicles and people wonder why they are not competitive. 
The MKC, of course, has the potential to open up a whole new field for Lincoln.......one that it has never dealt in before. It should also take some sales away from the overly-chunky-looking Cadillac SRX.
02-07-14, 06:16 PM
#50
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
A very nice effort by Lincoln.
My only gripes include the nerdy minivan front triangle windows
and a center stack that is too tall and prominent.
I'm also not reading good reviews on the pushbutton transmission.
And, of course, the push-buttons do have some useful features. They save space around the console by not having the lever sticking up (that could get in the way of you and your girl friend on a date)
. They also prevent the need for an awkward column-mounted shift-lever or an even MORE awkward, hard-to-use stub-shifter like those found on some upper-level Mercedes and BMW products.
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-07-14 at 06:19 PM.
02-07-14, 06:51 PM
#51
Yep....and neither one of them is selling. On top of that, they dropped the one car they had that DID sell.....the Town Car. Lincoln management now seems to be admitting that was a mistake.
They pretty much have to keep the Navigator around as a competitor to the Cadillac Escalade/GMC Yukon Denali, Lexus LX, Infiniti QX56, Audi Q7, Mercedes GL, Range Rover Sport, and BMW X5. The MKX, I admit, is not very impressive, but at least it gives Lincoln a shot in the luxury mid-sized SUV field....and, IMO, doesn't look quite as awkward as the larger MKT. The MKT, IMO, could probably be dropped.....to me, it looks awkward front and rear, is not selling well, and I wasn't that impressed with the performance of the one I sampled with the turbo Ecoboost V6. But, I'll admit, the MKT does have some fans....I think one of the staff here on CL owns one (but I can't remember who).
The MKC, of course, has the potential to open up a whole new field for Lincoln.......one that it has never dealt in before. It should also take some sales away from the overly-chunky-looking Cadillac SRX.
Lincoln management now seems to be admitting that was a mistake. They pretty much have to keep the Navigator around as a competitor to the Cadillac Escalade/GMC Yukon Denali, Lexus LX, Infiniti QX56, Audi Q7, Mercedes GL, Range Rover Sport, and BMW X5. The MKX, I admit, is not very impressive, but at least it gives Lincoln a shot in the luxury mid-sized SUV field....and, IMO, doesn't look quite as awkward as the larger MKT. The MKT, IMO, could probably be dropped.....to me, it looks awkward front and rear, is not selling well, and I wasn't that impressed with the performance of the one I sampled with the turbo Ecoboost V6. But, I'll admit, the MKT does have some fans....I think one of the staff here on CL owns one (but I can't remember who).
The MKC, of course, has the potential to open up a whole new field for Lincoln.......one that it has never dealt in before. It should also take some sales away from the overly-chunky-looking Cadillac SRX.
P.S.
Sorry for being Debbie Downer to your thread MMarshall.
02-07-14, 07:33 PM
#52
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by Slvr surfr
Sorry for being Debbie Downer to your thread MMarshall.
....as are most (but not all) that I deal with.
Lincoln makes some of the best concept cars but brings out some of the worst production models
; MKX,MKT= DOA, and now here comes the MKC just on a smaller scale.
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-07-14 at 07:39 PM.
02-07-14, 07:40 PM
#53
Lexus Champion
Yep....and neither one of them is selling. On top of that, they dropped the one car they had that DID sell.....the Town Car. Lincoln management now seems to be admitting that was a mistake.
They pretty much have to keep the Navigator around as a competitor to the Cadillac Escalade/GMC Yukon Denali, Lexus LX, Infiniti QX56, Audi Q7, Mercedes GL, Range Rover Sport, and BMW X5. The MKX, I admit, is not very impressive, but at least it gives Lincoln a shot in the luxury mid-sized SUV field....and, IMO, doesn't look quite as awkward as the larger MKT. The MKT, IMO, could probably be dropped.....to me, it looks awkward front and rear, is not selling well, and I wasn't that impressed with the performance of the one I sampled with the turbo Ecoboost V6. But, I'll admit, the MKT does have some fans....I think one of the staff here on CL owns one (but I can't remember who).
The MKC, of course, has the potential to open up a whole new field for Lincoln.......one that it has never dealt in before. It should also take some sales away from the overly-chunky-looking Cadillac SRX.
Lincoln management now seems to be admitting that was a mistake. They pretty much have to keep the Navigator around as a competitor to the Cadillac Escalade/GMC Yukon Denali, Lexus LX, Infiniti QX56, Audi Q7, Mercedes GL, Range Rover Sport, and BMW X5. The MKX, I admit, is not very impressive, but at least it gives Lincoln a shot in the luxury mid-sized SUV field....and, IMO, doesn't look quite as awkward as the larger MKT. The MKT, IMO, could probably be dropped.....to me, it looks awkward front and rear, is not selling well, and I wasn't that impressed with the performance of the one I sampled with the turbo Ecoboost V6. But, I'll admit, the MKT does have some fans....I think one of the staff here on CL owns one (but I can't remember who).
The MKC, of course, has the potential to open up a whole new field for Lincoln.......one that it has never dealt in before. It should also take some sales away from the overly-chunky-looking Cadillac SRX.
02-07-14, 08:08 PM
#54
Lexus Fanatic
Looking at Town Car sales reveals that sales declined for 14 consecutive years before the plug was pulled. From a high of 97,547 in 1998 to 9,460 in 2011. A clear indication the TC's life cycle had run its course and really didn't have a future. Time moved on with this model. It had its run..
And, because the DTS, Town Car, and Buick Lucerne are no longer available as new cars, they're bringing a lot of buisness on the used-car market.....values of good, clean, well-cared-for examples have risen lately. Many of their former buyers simply have not accepted the MKS, XTS, and LaCrosse like they did the former....though, admittedly, the LaCrosse is doing surprisingly well with a number of seniors I know (friends and people I swim with every day at the local indoor pool/recreation center).
From what I gathered talking to the Lincoln reps at the D.C. show (and I was very careful to listen to what they actually said, not just what I may have subconsciously wanted spun to agree with my own views), Lincoln management is taking complaints (and reduced attendance) at every major car show. They now admit that dropping the TC was a mistake, but, without a total or major redesign, they can't figure out a way to actually bring it back without busting future CAFE requirements. Big Brother, in effect, is preventing it.
02-07-14, 08:25 PM
#55
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Well, the new RDX probably sells because Acura addressed some of the excessive sport-orientation of the old one, and made the 2Gen version more palatable to a wider range of buyers. The old one was one of very few American-market Honda/Acura fours with low-RPM torque (probably because of the turbo), and would push you back hard in your seat in the lower gears. But the throttle, in some ways, was like an on/off switch, and the overly-stiff suspension took bumps like a go-kart. The new 2Gen version utilizes a more refined V6 and more civilized underpinnings.
No arguments there.
No arguments there.
02-07-14, 08:49 PM
#56
Lexus Fanatic
I don't want to overly-praise the MKC and become too starry-eyed, though, until I can actually sit in it and drive it. I have yet to see what I consider a perfect vehicle............and I know that the MKC isn't going to be any different. I'm going to find some faults....one can take that to the bank. But the best vehicles, as I see them, have a lot of good points and few bad ones.
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-07-14 at 09:01 PM.
06-02-14, 06:14 PM
#57
2015 Lincoln MKC 2.3L EcoBoost Makes 285 HP
Lincoln is jumping into the compact crossover segment with the new MKC and the brand has released revised power numbers and fuel economy estimates for the vehicle.
The MKC will be available with two different turbocharged EcoBoost engines, a 2.0-liter that makes 240 hp and 270 lb-ft of torque along with a new 2.3-liter that puts out 285 hp and 305 lb-ft of torque. Originally, Lincoln had said that the larger EcoBoost would make 275 hp.
Lincoln has also released estimated EPA fuel economy numbers, pegging the small engine option at 20 mpg in the city, 29 mpg on the highway and 23 mpg combined for the front-wheel drive model, or 19 mpg city, 26 mpg highway and 22 mpg combined for the all-wheel drive. Bump up to the 2.3-liter and fuel economy drops to 18 mpg city, 26 mpg highway and 21 mpg combined.
Starting at $33,995, the MKC offers the most value in its segment, under cutting Audi’s Q5 and the BMW X3 by several thousand dollars.
The MKC will be available with two different turbocharged EcoBoost engines, a 2.0-liter that makes 240 hp and 270 lb-ft of torque along with a new 2.3-liter that puts out 285 hp and 305 lb-ft of torque. Originally, Lincoln had said that the larger EcoBoost would make 275 hp.
Lincoln has also released estimated EPA fuel economy numbers, pegging the small engine option at 20 mpg in the city, 29 mpg on the highway and 23 mpg combined for the front-wheel drive model, or 19 mpg city, 26 mpg highway and 22 mpg combined for the all-wheel drive. Bump up to the 2.3-liter and fuel economy drops to 18 mpg city, 26 mpg highway and 21 mpg combined.
Starting at $33,995, the MKC offers the most value in its segment, under cutting Audi’s Q5 and the BMW X3 by several thousand dollars.
06-04-14, 09:11 AM
#58
2015 Lincoln MKC’s 2.3-Liter EcoBoost Rated at 285HP and 21MPG Combined [New Pics & Videos]
http://www.carscoops.com/2014/06/201...-ecoboost.html
As the all-new 2015 MKC will reach U.S. showrooms this month, Lincoln has released new photos and information about its small premium utility vehicle. An important update is that the 2.3-liter has been rated at 285hp at 5,500 rpm and 305 lb-ft (413 Nm) of torque at 2,750 rpm, or 10 hp and 5 lb-ft (6.7 Nm) over the initial figures.
With the help of Active Grille Shutters, the 2.3-liter EcoBoost has an EPA-estimated rating of 18 mpg (13 l/100km) city/26 mpg (9 l/100km) highway/21 mpg (11.2 l/100km) combined - in standard FWD configuration.
The Lincoln MKC will be offered with a standard 2.0-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine producing 240hp at 5,500 rpm and 270 lb-ft (366 Nm) of torque at 3,000 rpm. EPA-estimated ratings for the front-wheel drive model are 20 mpg (11.7 l/100km) city/29 mpg (8.1 l/100 km) highway/23 mpg (10.2 l/100km) combined, while the model fitted with the optional Intelligent All-Wheel Drive returns 19 mpg (12.4 l/100km) city/26 mpg (9 l/100km) highway/22 mpg (10.7 l/100km) combined.
Both engines are linked to a six-speed SelectShift automatic transmission with paddle shifters on the steering wheel. The base price for the 2.0-liter front-wheel drive model is $33,995, including destination and delivery charges.
The Lincoln MKC will also be sold in China alongside the MKZ sedan when the Lincoln brand debuts there later this year. The 2015 MKC is currently being produced at Louisville Assembly Plant in Kentucky.
With the help of Active Grille Shutters, the 2.3-liter EcoBoost has an EPA-estimated rating of 18 mpg (13 l/100km) city/26 mpg (9 l/100km) highway/21 mpg (11.2 l/100km) combined - in standard FWD configuration.
The Lincoln MKC will be offered with a standard 2.0-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine producing 240hp at 5,500 rpm and 270 lb-ft (366 Nm) of torque at 3,000 rpm. EPA-estimated ratings for the front-wheel drive model are 20 mpg (11.7 l/100km) city/29 mpg (8.1 l/100 km) highway/23 mpg (10.2 l/100km) combined, while the model fitted with the optional Intelligent All-Wheel Drive returns 19 mpg (12.4 l/100km) city/26 mpg (9 l/100km) highway/22 mpg (10.7 l/100km) combined.
Both engines are linked to a six-speed SelectShift automatic transmission with paddle shifters on the steering wheel. The base price for the 2.0-liter front-wheel drive model is $33,995, including destination and delivery charges.
The Lincoln MKC will also be sold in China alongside the MKZ sedan when the Lincoln brand debuts there later this year. The 2015 MKC is currently being produced at Louisville Assembly Plant in Kentucky.
