yowps3

We all know that Lexus is gonna reveal their 2.0L Turbo powertrain on 20th of November. But the question remains is how much power will it have?

Knowing Lexus today, I'd say it will have no more than 250HP.

**3AR-FTE**

Hoovey689

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judging by other manufactures and their 2.0T's I venture 230-250hp

spwolf

i think it will depend on application... anywhere from 180hp to 250hp.

yowps3

180HP to 250HP sounds reasonable I guess, they would not want the 4-cyl turbo to overlap with their current 3.5L V6. But I want to see them do something out of the box with their Turbo GDI engine.

Infra

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It needs MINIMUM of 210 to stay competitive simply in power rating. Ideally 240. Lexus doesn't need a BMW 320i competitor, it needs a 328 competitor.

Audi is going to be upping their 2.0T with the B9, which will be out within a year. It currently makes 208HP, expect that to rise significantly to counter BMW.

We could see a detuned sub-200 HP version in some models... but I don't see why. It doesn't really add any efficiency, which is what Lexus/Toyota really seems to drive home - efficient engines.

Lexuslvr91

The updated Audi A4 is currently listed at 220 hp and 258 lb-ft and everyone knows the engine is severely underrated. It hustles the near 4000 lb A4 to 60 in 5.8 sec and that was with the slightly older 211 hp version. The BMW 328i also has an underrated engine with publications recording that it was actually producing 270 hp instead of the 240 hp that BMW lists.

The ATS 2.0T is listed at 272 hp and will be receiving an upgrade from its current torque to 295 lb-ft just as the new CTS 2.0T.

Yes this engine from Lexus needs to be power dense and get the same fuel economy as the 328i if not better to be worthy of introduction. Here's hoping they can win the numbers game (~250 hp, 0-60 ~6.0 sec, 33 mpg hwy, etc.)

yowps3

I've tried the ATS 2.0t and I didn't like it. My favourite turbo motor is the Hyundai Sonata 2.0t. It's strong and has no lag and pretty refined.

yowps3

You are right and Lexus better play the number game.
When was the last time they played the number game? 7yrs ago when they introduced the 306HP IS350?

spwolf

interesting, everyone bags on that engine.

Hoovey689

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I think we should keep in mind there will be different outputs. I have a feeling FWD models will be less than the RWD ones. Makes sense

LexFather

Considering Lexus is going to strive for reliability and MPG I say around 220hp, if that….they could easily have 204hp then explain its an I-4 that makes the power of a V-6

Should it be class leading? I certainly hope so but not betting on it.

Hoovey is also right that different models will make different power and I assume Lexus keeps VVti and Toyota does not.

lol wut? The A4 is barely over 3500 lbs…how is that 4000lbs?

Hoovey689

iTrader: (16)

with two fat guys in the car?

Lexuslvr91

I think its a little sad that some don't even expect Lexus to come out with a class leading engine.

Motortrend tested the A4 along with other sport sedans in the class and it weighed in at 3710 lbs so that's my fault because I was thinking of the heavier A4 hatch/allroad.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

Still a 3700 lb car with 211 hp at the time rushing to 60 in 5.8 sec is bewildering.

spwolf

maybe Lexus should start doing FWD IS in the future.

pbm317

Look at the torque number and curve.