Nissan’s IDx Freeflow concept is FRS competitor
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$10.00 bucks saying that Nissan will fail to impress again. What year is it ? Why Boxy ? Why Retro ? It is an offend to the Human race.
I still don't get it...."Hey! Look, A Cigarette box can be made as fast as race car, no need for aerodynamic, just Flat panels"
I still don't get it...."Hey! Look, A Cigarette box can be made as fast as race car, no need for aerodynamic, just Flat panels"
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I'm thrilled with the styling direction. There will be almost nothing like it on the street.
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The retro-styled Nissan IDx concepts that were originally unveiled at the Tokyo Motor Show last year have taken a trip to Detroit for the 2014 NAIAS and it looks like we’ll be hearing about them in the future.
That’s because at least one of the twin concepts will go into production by 2016, according to Nissan executive vice president Andy Palmer.
“I don’t say that we won’t do both, but we will definitely do one of them. Obviously there’s a debate internally whether you go for the lifestyle one and leave the Nismo one in a slightly different place,” Palmer was quoted as saying by CarAdvice at the Detroit Auto Show.
While Nissan sees the lifestyle IDx Freeflow powered by a “1.2-to-1.5L gasoline engine mated to a continuously variable transmission (CVT)”, the wider, sportier IDx Nismo is envisioned with a powertrain consisting of a “high-performance, eco-friendly 1.6L direct-injection turbocharged engine together with a sporty CVT with 6-speed manual shift mode and synchronized rev control.”
Palmer didn’t confirm the displacement of the engine for the production IDx, but said it will be a relatively small engine, as the car is very light. The rear-wheel-drive production IDx would obviously target the Toyota GT86, but Palmer said Nissan plans to do that differently.
“I think our intention is to be different from the Toyota 86. We’re really looking at sports cars from different angles,” he said. As for the styling of the production car, the executive said it will follow closely that of the concepts.
So what do you think? Which of the IDx concepts should Nissan build?
That’s because at least one of the twin concepts will go into production by 2016, according to Nissan executive vice president Andy Palmer.
“I don’t say that we won’t do both, but we will definitely do one of them. Obviously there’s a debate internally whether you go for the lifestyle one and leave the Nismo one in a slightly different place,” Palmer was quoted as saying by CarAdvice at the Detroit Auto Show.
While Nissan sees the lifestyle IDx Freeflow powered by a “1.2-to-1.5L gasoline engine mated to a continuously variable transmission (CVT)”, the wider, sportier IDx Nismo is envisioned with a powertrain consisting of a “high-performance, eco-friendly 1.6L direct-injection turbocharged engine together with a sporty CVT with 6-speed manual shift mode and synchronized rev control.”
Palmer didn’t confirm the displacement of the engine for the production IDx, but said it will be a relatively small engine, as the car is very light. The rear-wheel-drive production IDx would obviously target the Toyota GT86, but Palmer said Nissan plans to do that differently.
“I think our intention is to be different from the Toyota 86. We’re really looking at sports cars from different angles,” he said. As for the styling of the production car, the executive said it will follow closely that of the concepts.
So what do you think? Which of the IDx concepts should Nissan build?
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The Nissan IDx concept will go into production by 2016 as an affordable, rear-wheel-drive coupe competitor for the Toyota 86, the brand announced at the Detroit motor show today.
At 4.1 metres long and 1.3 metres high, the twin Nissan IDx concepts – one lifestyle-focused badged Freeflow, the other a high-performance model named Nismo – measure up almost identically with the Toyota 86, with just 100mm less length and the same height.
Nissan only confirmed one of the twins for production, however, though executive vice president Andy Palmer added “don’t say that we won’t do both, but we will definitely do one of them.
“Obviously there’s a debate internally whether you go for the lifestyle one and leave the Nismo one in a slightly different place.”
The lifestyle-based Freeflow will likely use a small capacity turbocharged four cylinder engine, where the racier Nismo is tipped to offer a 1.6-litre turbo, which in the Pulsar SSS makes 140kW of power and 240Nm of torque.
“It’s very light weight, so it’s a relatively small engine,” was as close as Palmer got to confirming a size of powerplant for the IDx. “You get a lot of fun [being] rear drive…”
Nissan “haven’t decided” whether to include a manual transmission, but, says Palmer, “I would expect some kind of paddle shift … there’s plenty of ways of executing a ‘manual feel’ these days.”
Although the target for the IDx Nismo is 86, Palmer says “I think our intention is to be different from the Toyota 86. We’re really looking at sports cars from different angles.”
Asked where the IDx Nismo would be positioned, the executive VP responded: “Nismo is about the democratisation of AMG. It’s basically about affordable fun. I’d sit in somewhere … where 200SX/Silvia used to sit.
“What I really expect is that when I was a lad I aspired to a sports car as a bit of a bad boy, and what I’m really looking for is to inspire that same positioning for kids who are coming through today who apparently aren’t that interested in cars. We have to re-engender that excitement for motor cars.
“I anticipate the ‘Z’ will always be there as will be the GT-R, and I anticipate there will be two book-ends, the IDx on one side and the Bladeglider [electric vehicle concept] on the other.”
Palmer says that even the lifestyle version will “most likely” be rear-wheel-drive, but won’t get hybrid or electric power.
Styling of the production models will also closely follow that of the concepts, he tells.
“They [IDx] do resemble obviously a [Datsun] 510 [but] that wasn’t deliberate at the outset. We went into a collaborative process to see what youth would like in a car, and that collaboration with about 100 individuals took us to the 510 retro look.
“So obviously if that’s where the product planning process has taken us, the execution won’t be too far away from what that looks like.”
At 4.1 metres long and 1.3 metres high, the twin Nissan IDx concepts – one lifestyle-focused badged Freeflow, the other a high-performance model named Nismo – measure up almost identically with the Toyota 86, with just 100mm less length and the same height.
Nissan only confirmed one of the twins for production, however, though executive vice president Andy Palmer added “don’t say that we won’t do both, but we will definitely do one of them.
“Obviously there’s a debate internally whether you go for the lifestyle one and leave the Nismo one in a slightly different place.”
The lifestyle-based Freeflow will likely use a small capacity turbocharged four cylinder engine, where the racier Nismo is tipped to offer a 1.6-litre turbo, which in the Pulsar SSS makes 140kW of power and 240Nm of torque.
“It’s very light weight, so it’s a relatively small engine,” was as close as Palmer got to confirming a size of powerplant for the IDx. “You get a lot of fun [being] rear drive…”
Nissan “haven’t decided” whether to include a manual transmission, but, says Palmer, “I would expect some kind of paddle shift … there’s plenty of ways of executing a ‘manual feel’ these days.”
Although the target for the IDx Nismo is 86, Palmer says “I think our intention is to be different from the Toyota 86. We’re really looking at sports cars from different angles.”
Asked where the IDx Nismo would be positioned, the executive VP responded: “Nismo is about the democratisation of AMG. It’s basically about affordable fun. I’d sit in somewhere … where 200SX/Silvia used to sit.
“What I really expect is that when I was a lad I aspired to a sports car as a bit of a bad boy, and what I’m really looking for is to inspire that same positioning for kids who are coming through today who apparently aren’t that interested in cars. We have to re-engender that excitement for motor cars.
“I anticipate the ‘Z’ will always be there as will be the GT-R, and I anticipate there will be two book-ends, the IDx on one side and the Bladeglider [electric vehicle concept] on the other.”
Palmer says that even the lifestyle version will “most likely” be rear-wheel-drive, but won’t get hybrid or electric power.
Styling of the production models will also closely follow that of the concepts, he tells.
“They [IDx] do resemble obviously a [Datsun] 510 [but] that wasn’t deliberate at the outset. We went into a collaborative process to see what youth would like in a car, and that collaboration with about 100 individuals took us to the 510 retro look.
“So obviously if that’s where the product planning process has taken us, the execution won’t be too far away from what that looks like.”
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The fact that they liken it to the S chassis cars is very positive IMO. The styling definitely will not be for everyone but it will definitely be distinct and could make for a fun DD/commuter car!