Bmw m3 & m4 reveal
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if that's the case i wouldn't be crying about new cars being so expensive now would i? ![Frown](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
but then i see new cars on the road all the time, people buy them like no tomorrow, and sales numbers for all brands almost always go up.
i guess i am just not getting paid right
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but then i see new cars on the road all the time, people buy them like no tomorrow, and sales numbers for all brands almost always go up.
i guess i am just not getting paid right
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These are probably two good reasons.
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And I didn't say the M3 was a shopping cart, I just used your logic to extend it to a shopping cart. You say an M3 costing $80000 is not highway robbery just because it doesn't appeal to me, but it appeals to some people. Well then a shopping cart at $80,000 must appeal to some guy out there, therefore calling it highway robbery would also be wrong, when it clearly isn't.
![](http://www.carsdose.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/2014-jaguar-f-type-v6-roadster-interior-photo-512166-s-1280x782.jpg)
![](http://automph.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Jaguar-F-Type-Coupe-2014-front-view.jpg)
And I didn't say the M3 was a shopping cart, I just used your logic to extend it to a shopping cart. You say an M3 costing $80000 is not highway robbery just because it doesn't appeal to me, but it appeals to some people. Well then a shopping cart at $80,000 must appeal to some guy out there, therefore calling it highway robbery would also be wrong, when it clearly isn't.
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The bottom line is...you can't say something is overpriced if people are willing to pay those prices for the item.
I see that in my business all the time (I'm in the real estate business), someone says "that property is overpriced". Well, they have 4 offers on it and its only been on the market a day and a half...its going to sell for more than that price...you can't say its overpriced. You can say that its not a price you would pay, or you don't see the value...but something is only overpriced if it just sits there unsold because it costs too much. BMW will sell every last one of these.
I see that in my business all the time (I'm in the real estate business), someone says "that property is overpriced". Well, they have 4 offers on it and its only been on the market a day and a half...its going to sell for more than that price...you can't say its overpriced. You can say that its not a price you would pay, or you don't see the value...but something is only overpriced if it just sits there unsold because it costs too much. BMW will sell every last one of these.
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$70k is a REALLY lightly options car. All the regular cars I see on the street average about $80k.
I checked one out the other day that I don't like, the MSRP was $84k.........and it didn't look special.
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If it is a convertible with DCT, the base price is already over $80k I think, add a few options......
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...54323220&Log=0
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The reality is, cars are REALLY expensive. The drivetrain and chassis tuning in this M3 is very exotic and expensive, so really $92k just buy you a very exotic drivetrain with a pedestrian interior and exterior. Not to mention a prestige european brand command a premium.
You want a car that looks more exotic with this level of drivetrain, it would be a 911 GT3 at $150k.
You get what you pay for and every little thing cost money. A car that truly have everything cover is the 458 Speciale at $400k. Every cars below that price point, is lacking in one area or the other due to budget constraint.
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most fancy cars are leased so prices don't mean a whole lot.
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That is because $92k is not enough to provide an exotic look. It is the biggest thing that turns me away too, I love how this M3 drive but just can't get over how boring it looks. My SC430 is the opposite, it looks like a cool coupe with a fancy interior, but it drive very boring.
The reality is, cars are REALLY expensive. The drivetrain and chassis tuning in this M3 is very exotic and expensive, so really $92k just buy you a very exotic drivetrain with a pedestrian interior and exterior. Not to mention a prestige european brand command a premium.
You want a car that looks more exotic with this level of drivetrain, it would be a 911 GT3 at $150k.
You get what you pay for and every little thing cost money. A car that truly have everything cover is the 458 Speciale at $400k. Every cars below that price point, is lacking in one area or the other due to budget constraint.
The reality is, cars are REALLY expensive. The drivetrain and chassis tuning in this M3 is very exotic and expensive, so really $92k just buy you a very exotic drivetrain with a pedestrian interior and exterior. Not to mention a prestige european brand command a premium.
You want a car that looks more exotic with this level of drivetrain, it would be a 911 GT3 at $150k.
You get what you pay for and every little thing cost money. A car that truly have everything cover is the 458 Speciale at $400k. Every cars below that price point, is lacking in one area or the other due to budget constraint.