View Poll Results: What name should Toyota use for the production Toyota FT-1?
Supra gets my vote!
129
84.31%
I don't know, but its time for a new name.
24
15.69%
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Toyota Supra / FT-1
02-23-14, 05:38 PM
#451
Originally Posted by Rampage
When the MR2 Spyder was first announce it was projected to sell at approximately $19K it was released with a price of $23,389. The FR-S was projected to be priced at $20K. It was released at $24,255. So, Toyota has a history of missing their projected price point by 20-25%. Take Calty's projected price target of $50K-$60K and you have a possible actual price of $62,500 on the low side to $75,000 on the high.
I will split the difference and predict $68,750.
When the MR2 Spyder was first announce it was projected to sell at approximately $19K it was released with a price of $23,389. The FR-S was projected to be priced at $20K. It was released at $24,255. So, Toyota has a history of missing their projected price point by 20-25%. Take Calty's projected price target of $50K-$60K and you have a possible actual price of $62,500 on the low side to $75,000 on the high.
I will split the difference and predict $68,750.
Once we know the powertrain(s), and what the FT-1 will be pitted against (last Supra was more a muscle car fighter among others), we should have a better idea on pricing
02-23-14, 05:40 PM
#452
Lexus Test Driver
While Supra is the Halo of Toyota line, it will use different drive train as in Turbo, and Hybrid. There are people who prefer NA, and there are people who prefer Turbos, some are for Hybrids.
Knowing how Toyota is making their moves. The new Hybrid R would be sure to spawn under Toyota name before Lexus or Scion, and this will probably be on the next Supra, and the rumored hot hatch....
Seeing how Toyota has opened the door to the NX turbo 4. It will also be a possibility of using that on the IS250 F itself. Turbo 4 with F sports and making 275 hp, while the IS350 is NA, it will still be stronger than the IS 250 F trim. The IS 250 V6 may be dropped al-together as the MpG and performance number compare to the 350 makes no senses...whatsoever.
02-23-14, 05:41 PM
#453
Hmm well GT-R originally started around that price, and over the years plus inflation has made it a six digit car.
Once we know the powertrain(s), and what the FT-1 will be pitted against (last Supra was more a muscle car fighter among others), we should have a better idea on pricing
Once we know the powertrain(s), and what the FT-1 will be pitted against (last Supra was more a muscle car fighter among others), we should have a better idea on pricing
02-23-14, 05:46 PM
#454
Lexus Test Driver
Manufacturer while having a huge influences on technologies, and parts, but they are still being effected by the patented owners pricing.
Hybrid is still new. Though supposedly cheaper to make more power than even turbo engine itself. They are still expensive due to supply/demand....
And as you see, turbo engine is so efficient for high HP, but lag in the low-end torque. Since the Hybrid can net in Low end torque, and make use of some energy being wasted by the traditional ICE alone. This makes Turbo engine and Hybrid together for a Perfect world....that is what all the big boys are playing with...ferrari..mclarren..porsche
The market is not ready yet to welcome Hybrid
Last edited by Whitigir; 02-23-14 at 05:50 PM.
02-23-14, 05:55 PM
#455
I would think so. The RC may not have the Hybrid variant, just like the IS and IS F. RC is. Spawn off the IS 4 doors. Therefore, i logically think the RC will likely be using V6-350 and V8 for the F version.
While Supra is the Halo of Toyota line, it will use different drive train as in Turbo, and Hybrid. There are people who prefer NA, and there are people who prefer Turbos, some are for Hybrids.
Knowing how Toyota is making their moves. The new Hybrid R would be sure to spawn under Toyota name before Lexus or Scion, and this will probably be on the next Supra, and the rumored hot hatch....
Seeing how Toyota has opened the door to the NX turbo 4. It will also be a possibility of using that on the IS250 F itself. Turbo 4 with F sports and making 275 hp, while the IS350 is NA, it will still be stronger than the IS 250 F trim. The IS 250 V6 may be dropped al-together as the MpG and performance number compare to the 350 makes no senses...whatsoever.
While Supra is the Halo of Toyota line, it will use different drive train as in Turbo, and Hybrid. There are people who prefer NA, and there are people who prefer Turbos, some are for Hybrids.
Knowing how Toyota is making their moves. The new Hybrid R would be sure to spawn under Toyota name before Lexus or Scion, and this will probably be on the next Supra, and the rumored hot hatch....
Seeing how Toyota has opened the door to the NX turbo 4. It will also be a possibility of using that on the IS250 F itself. Turbo 4 with F sports and making 275 hp, while the IS350 is NA, it will still be stronger than the IS 250 F trim. The IS 250 V6 may be dropped al-together as the MpG and performance number compare to the 350 makes no senses...whatsoever.
02-23-14, 05:55 PM
#456
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That was b.c of the yen... Today it's trading far more favorable than when the FRS debuted. It's why profits are up big, much of it is based on currency changes alone.
, but I'm drawing a major blank. SF?
02-23-14, 06:03 PM
#458
It was a concept. Concept is not production ready, so it would never go through all the mass production cost engineering, and reliability testing.
Manufacturer while having a huge influences on technologies, and parts, but they are still being effected by the patented owners pricing.
Hybrid is still new. Though supposedly cheaper to make more power than even turbo engine itself. They are still expensive due to supply/demand....
And as you see, turbo engine is so efficient for high HP, but lag in the low-end torque. Since the Hybrid can net in Low end torque, and make use of some energy being wasted by the traditional shICE alone. This makes Turbo engine and Hybrid together for a Perfect world....that is what all the big boys are playing with...ferrari..mclarren..porsche
The market is not ready yet to welcome Hybrid
Manufacturer while having a huge influences on technologies, and parts, but they are still being effected by the patented owners pricing.
Hybrid is still new. Though supposedly cheaper to make more power than even turbo engine itself. They are still expensive due to supply/demand....
And as you see, turbo engine is so efficient for high HP, but lag in the low-end torque. Since the Hybrid can net in Low end torque, and make use of some energy being wasted by the traditional shICE alone. This makes Turbo engine and Hybrid together for a Perfect world....that is what all the big boys are playing with...ferrari..mclarren..porsche
The market is not ready yet to welcome Hybrid
I recall a target starting price for FT-HS was the mid $35k range. Something like what you listed will most likely push this car way beyond the the current target range.
They better be, the R36 and NSX II will be hybrids. There is a report saying the next Evo will be a hybrid as well. (?)
I don't know, they posted charts of the pricing, inflation, and along with the Yen dropping in value. I'll see if I can find it again.
Editing: I can't find it :/
http://jalopnik.com/the-toyota-ft-1-...-re-1502590788
Last edited by Vh_Supra26; 09-25-16 at 11:08 AM.
02-24-14, 06:27 AM
#463
Yes sir it is.
Click on the link below to see all 120 photos from MotorTrend.
http://www.motortrend.com/future/con.../photo_01.html
Below are just a few of the photos from the FT-1's interior.
Click on the link below to see all 120 photos from MotorTrend.
http://www.motortrend.com/future/con.../photo_01.html
Below are just a few of the photos from the FT-1's interior.
Last edited by Vh_Supra26; 02-24-14 at 07:11 AM.
