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Old 01-10-14 | 06:53 PM
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Nissan revealed that Infinii contributes nothing to their bottom line. That is as bad of a sign as it gets. If it doesn't start making money soon they will face the plank again like in the late 90s.
Old 01-10-14 | 06:59 PM
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Palmer: Nissan Considered Killing Infiniti
Jan. 23, 2013
Christie Schweinsberg | WardsAuto

DETROIT – In nearly 24 years of existence, the Infiniti luxury brand has been less than a stellar performer.

Parent Nissan had a volume-rules mentality when it came to Infiniti sales, says Nissan Executive Vice President Andy Palmer, and little attention was paid to developing the type of products that have made the German brands so desirable.

Results were predictably mediocre, and Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn considered killing the brand.

“Very frankly, very candidly, we don’t need Infiniti, we just don’t need that brand,” Palmer tells WardsAuto in an interview at the 2013 North American International Auto Show here. “Mr. Ghosn challenged me and said, ‘We don’t have to do Infiniti, you can cancel it if you want.’”

http://wardsauto.com/management-amp-...lling-infiniti
Old 01-10-14 | 10:49 PM
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Carlos Ghosn & Renualt have really dragged Nissan down.
Old 01-10-14 | 10:57 PM
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I've seen more Q50s than the new IS.
Old 01-10-14 | 11:45 PM
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I really loved my G35 when I had it and the streets were covered in them when they hit the market . Every gen after the first seems to sell less and be less appealing. WTF !? It should be the opposite. I had high hopes for the Q50 . I drive it and liked it but I guess the competition is too great.
Old 01-11-14 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
I've seen more Q50s than the new IS.
In Australia the IS alone outsells the entire Infiniti brand.

I see the new IS on a regular basis. I saw 2 just today..
Old 01-11-14 | 09:55 AM
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I see the JX way more than the q50...guess you can call it exclusive like the rlx

I wonder if the new name thing is hurting infiniti.
Old 01-11-14 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
I've seen more Q50s than the new IS.
I agree. WAY more.
Old 01-11-14 | 10:55 AM
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Feeding frenzy in progress.
Old 01-11-14 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
I've seen more Q50s than the new IS.
+1 ......3IS is a rare sighting.
Old 01-11-14 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LexFather
Nissan revealed that Infinii contributes nothing to their bottom line. That is as bad of a sign as it gets. If it doesn't start making money soon they will face the plank again like in the late 90s.
The difference, though, is that this time, unlike the late 1990s and early 2000s, Nissan does seem to be making money, with or without Infiniti. The Altima, in particular, is a success. 15 years ago, when Ghosn started his famous cost-cutting, the situation was so drastic that both you and I agreed (if you remember) that what we saw on the Nissans (and some Infinitis) of that period was simply unacceptable.
Old 01-11-14 | 12:17 PM
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Infiniti is in a way better position than Acura is at the moment.

You want desperate? Look to Acura for that
Old 01-11-14 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax2k1

This must the dumbest comment I have read on a car forum in a while. How old are you , 12?
I've had 2 nissans in my life, one before their almost bankruptcy, and the other model during their initial Ghosen years. Ill tell you first hand the second one was a cheap pos.....when the brakes in the back went bad, the dealership nor any local part stores could source the right parts. Finally we found the part in an oriellys. They were drum brakes and the manager at the dealership had the nerve to claim we upgraded to them.......upgraded to drum brakes.....moron. The parts inside were cheap as well, and their current lineup doesn't look any better.
Old 01-11-14 | 04:27 PM
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According to CR's Owner Survey, reliability of all Infiniti models is solid. Average to Well Above Average.
Old 01-11-14 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BNR34
I personally owned a Nissan truck and 2 GTRs, my sister in law has a G35 coupe, brother in law has an I30.............so I have planty of personal experiences.

Guess what, we own and buy nothing but Toyota/Lexus products now.
What years were said vehicles? So many base their opinions on ancient experiences or recent experience with ancient vehicles

I regularly drive someone's '11 g37 coupe. While it could be a bit quieter on the highway, and a trim door bit is showing a bit of wear I wouldn't have expected, the drivetrain and body integrity is awesome. The 7 speed auto is EXCELLENT in particular. The handling/comfort balance is excellent too.

Back to op post, never seen a Q50 around these parts... But that hotel trip deal is a typical gimmick done for many products, and travel, etc. and it's offered by a dealer, not corporate, so not some desperate move by the brand itself.

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