2015 Subaru legacy (What Happened?!)
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Wow sales really collapsed after the 3rd gen model from 2003-2009.
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01...s-figures.html
All that hype about how much sales have increased was just a bunch of fluff. They probably pulled it from 2009-2010 data. A lot of that was due to the economy, but between U.S. and Canada they were selling in excess of 90k Legacys per year. They never got out of the 40k range with the 4th gen model. A huge collapse in sales that never recovered, far beyond what the economy at the time could have accounted for. So yeah, more bland and bloated styleless design please.
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01...s-figures.html
All that hype about how much sales have increased was just a bunch of fluff. They probably pulled it from 2009-2010 data. A lot of that was due to the economy, but between U.S. and Canada they were selling in excess of 90k Legacys per year. They never got out of the 40k range with the 4th gen model. A huge collapse in sales that never recovered, far beyond what the economy at the time could have accounted for. So yeah, more bland and bloated styleless design please.
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I think this model will do better. A couple of things:
1) The Outback is now its own separate model. Was that the case before? I remember it being just a trim level.
2) Competition is MUCH more fierce now and the current gen had poor fuel economy compared to its peers
3) More people are interested in AWD now- perhaps that will be a selling point for more people. Both the Fusion and upcoming 200 have it/will have it as well.
1) The Outback is now its own separate model. Was that the case before? I remember it being just a trim level.
2) Competition is MUCH more fierce now and the current gen had poor fuel economy compared to its peers
3) More people are interested in AWD now- perhaps that will be a selling point for more people. Both the Fusion and upcoming 200 have it/will have it as well.
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Mazda tried the same thing, the zoom zoom concept and sporty passenger cars made them into a likable brand. Success of the first gen mazda 6 & 3 made them go for a greater market share by introducing models like the CX-9 and the vanilla 6. Its clear that hasn't worked, sales of the 6 were abysmal no where near the numbers of the first gen. Mazda revised there strategy and the new 6 and 3 are now very likable vehicles light weight and agile. Lets hope Subaru doesn't loose a decade like Mazda did..
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Time doesn't always make for better designs. 10-15 years ago, for instance, it was much easier to get in and out of the rear seat of the average sedan without banging your head on the low-droop-down, humpback-whale roofline. Sedans didn't try and look like coupes like they do today.
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Wow sales really collapsed after the 3rd gen model from 2003-2009.
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01...s-figures.html
All that hype about how much sales have increased was just a bunch of fluff. They probably pulled it from 2009-2010 data. A lot of that was due to the economy, but between U.S. and Canada they were selling in excess of 90k Legacys per year. They never got out of the 40k range with the 4th gen model. A huge collapse in sales that never recovered, far beyond what the economy at the time could have accounted for. So yeah, more bland and bloated styleless design please.
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01...s-figures.html
All that hype about how much sales have increased was just a bunch of fluff. They probably pulled it from 2009-2010 data. A lot of that was due to the economy, but between U.S. and Canada they were selling in excess of 90k Legacys per year. They never got out of the 40k range with the 4th gen model. A huge collapse in sales that never recovered, far beyond what the economy at the time could have accounted for. So yeah, more bland and bloated styleless design please.
eh. read the fine print there... so much for huge collapse, lol.
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did subies hire hyuuundie front office - automative collager?
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Prior to 2009 Legacy sales included sales of the Outback.
Which means:
2004: 89k (highest sales with Legacy and Outback counted together)
2008: 67k (last year sales with Legacy and Outback counted together)
2013: 160k - new Legacy + Outback
So nothing fluffy about sales increase... Last month Subaru sold as much as VW + Audi combined.
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New Legacy by comparison:
I will forever love the 2003-2009 Legacy, as I wanted a GT Spec. B as a first car. Subaru's best design effort in my opinion, with the 2nd generation post-bug eye(2002-2007) WRX and WRX STi following after.
GT Limited
GT Spec. B
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The interior of the '04 was premium.
The current one is CHEAP quality.
Also Subaru no longer uses their signature frameless windows!
From this
To this ugly bloated fish
It looks even uglier in person as these photos do not do the ugly proportions any justice
The current one is CHEAP quality.
Also Subaru no longer uses their signature frameless windows!
From this
To this ugly bloated fish
It looks even uglier in person as these photos do not do the ugly proportions any justice
Last edited by yowps3; 02-05-14 at 07:44 PM.