Hyundai Axed the Turbo Four in the 2015 Genesis Coupe
08-12-14, 04:45 PM
#31
Lead Lap
I'm quite surpised you said that about the pre-facelift Genesis coupe. My friend had one for a while and I drove it through some windy back roads of Tennessee when we had a to take a detour around an accident. It was a 3.8 Track model- It had athletic moves but that suspension was brittle enough to make the car seem nervous and unsettled where a 335i would've maintained it's composure. In that form, the Genesis Coupe needed an extra layer of compliance to compete with the best.
It was a good first effort, but that class got intense quickly. I don't think Hyundai or Nissan with the 370Z imagined the pony car competition was going to evolve so rapidly.
It was a good first effort, but that class got intense quickly. I don't think Hyundai or Nissan with the 370Z imagined the pony car competition was going to evolve so rapidly.
08-12-14, 04:51 PM
#32
That's what I was referring to. Sorry if I was unclear.
Yes, the one I sampled was also before these 2013 changes. I had just reviewed a BMW 335i, and the Genesis Coupe 3.8L Track version felt remarkably similar on the road, except for the somewhat firmer ride that you noticed.
Did you check the tire pressures? Trust me....a LOT of new cars come off the transporters with PSIs WAY over recommendation. They do that to keep soft tires rocking on the transporter from being damaged by the wheel rims. The dealer PDI guys are supposed to bleed them down to the proper PSIs, but, in my experience, about half of the time, they don't. When they don't, the ride is noticeably stiffer (and the steering quicker) than it normally would be.
(That's why I carry a tire gauge and/or double-check the tires on the pressure-sensors before a test-drive).
The 2008 IS-F suspension, before the 2009 retuning, I agree, was one of the harshest I've ever experienced on a regular street-car, along with the Mitsubishi Evo's. The Genesis coupe I drove (with proper PSI's) was quite firm but not in that league.
Like I said, it's not a perfect BMW 3-series match, but, to my senses, easily the closest I've seen in all the reviews I've done. I should also add, BTW, that I drove an automatic version....not the 6MT. The manual version might (?) have somewhat different tuning....and could exlain some of the differences.
Yes, the one I sampled was also before these 2013 changes. I had just reviewed a BMW 335i, and the Genesis Coupe 3.8L Track version felt remarkably similar on the road, except for the somewhat firmer ride that you noticed.
Did you check the tire pressures? Trust me....a LOT of new cars come off the transporters with PSIs WAY over recommendation. They do that to keep soft tires rocking on the transporter from being damaged by the wheel rims. The dealer PDI guys are supposed to bleed them down to the proper PSIs, but, in my experience, about half of the time, they don't. When they don't, the ride is noticeably stiffer (and the steering quicker) than it normally would be.
(That's why I carry a tire gauge and/or double-check the tires on the pressure-sensors before a test-drive).
The 2008 IS-F suspension, before the 2009 retuning, I agree, was one of the harshest I've ever experienced on a regular street-car, along with the Mitsubishi Evo's. The Genesis coupe I drove (with proper PSI's) was quite firm but not in that league.
Like I said, it's not a perfect BMW 3-series match, but, to my senses, easily the closest I've seen in all the reviews I've done. I should also add, BTW, that I drove an automatic version....not the 6MT. The manual version might (?) have somewhat different tuning....and could exlain some of the differences.
08-12-14, 05:07 PM
#33
Lexus Fanatic
Wouldn't be the first time we disagreed, and may not be the last.Here's an interesting line, though, from AUTOMOBILE magazine...........
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...3_8_track_a_t/
In many ways, the Genesis Coupe 3.8 is a poor man's Infiniti G37 coupe (which itself is a poor man's BMW 335i coupe).
Last edited by mmarshall; 08-12-14 at 05:21 PM.
08-12-14, 05:25 PM
#34
OK, fine, No problem. Wouldn't be the first time we disagreed, and may not be the last.
Here's an interesting line, though, from AUTOMOBILE magazine...........
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...3_8_track_a_t/
Wouldn't be the first time we disagreed, and may not be the last.Here's an interesting line, though, from AUTOMOBILE magazine...........
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...3_8_track_a_t/
08-13-14, 08:11 AM
#35
Lexus Champion
I'm quite surpised you said that about the pre-facelift Genesis coupe. My friend had one for a while and I drove it through some windy back roads of Tennessee when we had a to take a detour around an accident. It was a 3.8 Track model- It had athletic moves but that suspension was brittle enough to make the car seem nervous and unsettled where a 335i would've maintained it's composure. In that form, the Genesis Coupe needed an extra layer of compliance to compete with the best.
It was a good first effort, but that class got intense quickly. I don't think Hyundai or Nissan with the 370Z imagined the pony car competition was going to evolve so rapidly.
It was a good first effort, but that class got intense quickly. I don't think Hyundai or Nissan with the 370Z imagined the pony car competition was going to evolve so rapidly.
08-13-14, 08:44 AM
#37
Lexus Champion
03-08-24, 08:06 PM
#38
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I can offer a bit of my 2 cents. I am a former owner of a MY16 Genesis Coupe. I now own an RC F.
There are so many spot on points mentioned in this old thread. I was lucky enough to buy my Genny bone stock. I also kept her mostly bone stock until I traded her in. One of the few mods I did do to my Genny was removing the factory crooked “H” with aftermarket Genesis Coupe wing badges. It seemed like a sad story that people including myself would buy this car yet feel ashamed to be in a “Hyundai”. I do agree Hyundai has come a long way, but to reiterate what was already mentioned in this thread, it was a poor marketing decision to call the coupe a Genesis. The Genny coupe interior was far from luxurious. I also always strongly believed Hyundai could have positioned this car in a higher echelon if they could have somehow engineered to offer the V8 in the coupe from the Hyundai Genesis sedan. From what I read, this was a tough task to fit it under the hood of the coupe due to dimensions etc.
In August 2016, it was officially announced Hyundai was killing the Genesis Coupe after the 2016 model year. It was evident that a coupe was not in the cards for the Genesis brand. It is now the year 2024 and Genesis has YET to release a Coupe post the Hyundai/Genesis brand split a la Toyota/Lexus. I always knew in my heart the standalone Genesis brand would not release a coupe anytime soon after the split. The day they do, I’ll be surprised.
I will however give the marketing team at Hyundai kudos for using the name “Track Edition” way before the RC F even existed. Hyundai last used the name on the MY13 Genesis Coupe. This marketing name was replaced with “Ultimate” for MY14-MY16. You could say Lexus may have borrowed the name for the RC F TE.
There are so many spot on points mentioned in this old thread. I was lucky enough to buy my Genny bone stock. I also kept her mostly bone stock until I traded her in. One of the few mods I did do to my Genny was removing the factory crooked “H” with aftermarket Genesis Coupe wing badges. It seemed like a sad story that people including myself would buy this car yet feel ashamed to be in a “Hyundai”. I do agree Hyundai has come a long way, but to reiterate what was already mentioned in this thread, it was a poor marketing decision to call the coupe a Genesis. The Genny coupe interior was far from luxurious. I also always strongly believed Hyundai could have positioned this car in a higher echelon if they could have somehow engineered to offer the V8 in the coupe from the Hyundai Genesis sedan. From what I read, this was a tough task to fit it under the hood of the coupe due to dimensions etc.
In August 2016, it was officially announced Hyundai was killing the Genesis Coupe after the 2016 model year. It was evident that a coupe was not in the cards for the Genesis brand. It is now the year 2024 and Genesis has YET to release a Coupe post the Hyundai/Genesis brand split a la Toyota/Lexus. I always knew in my heart the standalone Genesis brand would not release a coupe anytime soon after the split. The day they do, I’ll be surprised.
I will however give the marketing team at Hyundai kudos for using the name “Track Edition” way before the RC F even existed. Hyundai last used the name on the MY13 Genesis Coupe. This marketing name was replaced with “Ultimate” for MY14-MY16. You could say Lexus may have borrowed the name for the RC F TE.
03-09-24, 05:20 PM
#39
There are so many spot on points mentioned in this old thread. I was lucky enough to buy my Genny bone stock. I also kept her mostly bone stock until I traded her in. One of the few mods I did do to my Genny was removing the factory crooked “H” with aftermarket Genesis Coupe wing badges. It seemed like a sad story that people including myself would buy this car yet feel ashamed to be in a “Hyundai”. I do agree Hyundai has come a long way, but to reiterate what was already mentioned in this thread, it was a poor marketing decision to call the coupe a Genesis. The Genny coupe interior was far from luxurious. I also always strongly believed Hyundai could have positioned this car in a higher echelon if they could have somehow engineered to offer the V8 in the coupe from the Hyundai Genesis sedan. From what I read, this was a tough task to fit it under the hood of the coupe due to dimensions etc.
In August 2016, it was officially announced Hyundai was killing the Genesis Coupe after the 2016 model year. It was evident that a coupe was not in the cards for the Genesis brand. It is now the year 2024 and Genesis has YET to release a Coupe post the Hyundai/Genesis brand split a la Toyota/Lexus. I always knew in my heart the standalone Genesis brand would not release a coupe anytime soon after the split. The day they do, I’ll be surprised.
In August 2016, it was officially announced Hyundai was killing the Genesis Coupe after the 2016 model year. It was evident that a coupe was not in the cards for the Genesis brand. It is now the year 2024 and Genesis has YET to release a Coupe post the Hyundai/Genesis brand split a la Toyota/Lexus. I always knew in my heart the standalone Genesis brand would not release a coupe anytime soon after the split. The day they do, I’ll be surprised.
With any luck we'll probably see the Genesis X Coupe go into production but that is going to have practically nothing in common with it the Genesis Coupe besides having the words "Genesis" and "Coupe" in its name. Especially the price.
03-09-24, 06:19 PM
#40
Lexus Fanatic
In August 2016, it was officially announced Hyundai was killing the Genesis Coupe after the 2016 model year. It was evident that a coupe was not in the cards for the Genesis brand. It is now the year 2024 and Genesis has YET to release a Coupe post the Hyundai/Genesis brand split a la Toyota/Lexus. I always knew in my heart the standalone Genesis brand would not release a coupe anytime soon after the split. The day they do, I’ll be surprised.
was a nice car. And it should be branded a Hyundai and not a GenesisLast edited by Toys4RJill; 03-09-24 at 06:32 PM.
03-10-24, 07:19 AM
#41
Good points. Agree that the day Genesis releases a coupe, it will be very, very far off from a bang for your buck offering its predecessor was.
In the 2020 interview below with he Scott Margason, Hyundai director of product planning, says there was definitely discussions to call the Genesis Coupe a Tiburon but ultimately kept the Genesis Coupe name to emphasize and market the Rear wheel drive of the Genesis platform. Interesting that he says he’d like to see the Genesis Coupe make a comeback.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...interview/amp/
In the 2020 interview below with he Scott Margason, Hyundai director of product planning, says there was definitely discussions to call the Genesis Coupe a Tiburon but ultimately kept the Genesis Coupe name to emphasize and market the Rear wheel drive of the Genesis platform. Interesting that he says he’d like to see the Genesis Coupe make a comeback.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...interview/amp/
03-13-24, 09:16 PM
#44
@jwong77 The 3.8s are quite reliable, but with 3.8 2013+ models having the GDI engine, carbon deposit build up is inevitable and must be cleaned up to prolong the life of the engine. I can’t speak on the 2.0 Turbos longevity, especially since most Turbo Gennys end up being heavily modded.
Also these are Hyundais at the end of the day so expect plastic parts to wear out etc.
Bottomline it is a great bang for your buck sports car and can definitely be a DD if you are able to get a Genny that hasn’t been abused or heavily modded.
Also these are Hyundais at the end of the day so expect plastic parts to wear out etc.
Bottomline it is a great bang for your buck sports car and can definitely be a DD if you are able to get a Genny that hasn’t been abused or heavily modded.
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