How Long Do Hybrid Cars Last: Which Will Make 150,000 Miles?
06-16-14, 12:52 PM
#31
Lexus Fanatic
That says a lot. 
Since you are not a hybrid owner and have no idea of what Lexus has done for people let me reiterate since you missed the last post. Lexus has a great track history replacing and taking care of people OUT OF WARRANTY. The fact of the matter is the hybrid system is warrantied for 100k miles so past that it is a fair ballgame. These hybrids were the first of their kind, the Lexus GS being the worlds first RWD hybrid sport sedan so the technology is older compared to today.
My story is only one. Some people have no had to change a thing. Some people have before 100k miles. I stand behind Lexus/Toyota hybrids as great options for people.
My feedback is of actual ownership, with high mileage, which is exactly what the thread and O.P is about. You and your friend's feedback are based on what I wrote since neither of you have any experience owning a Lexus or Toyota or any hybrid. Instead of saying "thank you" for the feedback, you two are trying to be cute with your responses.
Since you are not a hybrid owner and have no idea of what Lexus has done for people let me reiterate since you missed the last post. Lexus has a great track history replacing and taking care of people OUT OF WARRANTY. The fact of the matter is the hybrid system is warrantied for 100k miles so past that it is a fair ballgame. These hybrids were the first of their kind, the Lexus GS being the worlds first RWD hybrid sport sedan so the technology is older compared to today.
My story is only one. Some people have no had to change a thing. Some people have before 100k miles. I stand behind Lexus/Toyota hybrids as great options for people.
My feedback is of actual ownership, with high mileage, which is exactly what the thread and O.P is about. You and your friend's feedback are based on what I wrote since neither of you have any experience owning a Lexus or Toyota or any hybrid. Instead of saying "thank you" for the feedback, you two are trying to be cute with your responses.
Many people including me would argue that Lexus does not have a great track record of taking care people out of warranty on many known design issues based on our experiences but that is for other threads.
Your story is one where you are praising a car and the cars hybrid system that completely failed just after 100K miles to the tune of a $7000 repair bill which I find very odd. Others have not been so fortunate with Lexus covering the out of warranty claims on failed hybrid systems, others have like you said. If you got stuck paying that $7000 repair bill like some owners may have experienced or may experience would you still be praising the hybrid system that completely failed and how Lexus handled it?
I don't know Lex2InfiN nor do I have much if any dialogue with him, I think I have argued against some of his positions at times in past threads so not sure why you are calling us "friends".
As far as your comment neither of us have any experience owning a Lexus or Toyota
, I own and I am driving a Lexus right now
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06-16-14, 01:19 PM
#32
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How about do us all a favor and provide us your feedback of hybrid Lexus ownership so we can compare notes.
06-16-14, 01:35 PM
#33
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Wow, talk about lack of comprehension or not understanding sentences. Maybe you were just trying to be cute but it looks like you actually did not understand I was giving a scenario of how I would feel if I had a car that had a major component failure/$7000 repair bill just after 100K miles and you somehow mistook it that I was saying I did not own a car
Many people including me would argue that Lexus does not have a great track record of taking care people out of warranty on many known design issues based on our experiences but that is for other threads.
Your story is one where you are praising a car and the cars hybrid system that completely failed just after 100K miles to the tune of a $7000 repair bill which I find very odd. Others have not been so fortunate with Lexus covering the out of warranty claims on failed hybrid systems, others have like you said. If you got stuck paying that $7000 repair bill like some owners may have experienced or may experience would you still be praising the hybrid system that completely failed and how Lexus handled it?
I don't know Lex2InfiN nor do I have much if any dialogue with him, I think I have argued against some of his positions at times in past threads so not sure why you are calling us "friends".
As far as your comment neither of us have any experience owning a Lexus or Toyota, I own and I am driving a Lexus right now.
Many people including me would argue that Lexus does not have a great track record of taking care people out of warranty on many known design issues based on our experiences but that is for other threads.
Your story is one where you are praising a car and the cars hybrid system that completely failed just after 100K miles to the tune of a $7000 repair bill which I find very odd. Others have not been so fortunate with Lexus covering the out of warranty claims on failed hybrid systems, others have like you said. If you got stuck paying that $7000 repair bill like some owners may have experienced or may experience would you still be praising the hybrid system that completely failed and how Lexus handled it?
I don't know Lex2InfiN nor do I have much if any dialogue with him, I think I have argued against some of his positions at times in past threads so not sure why you are calling us "friends".
As far as your comment neither of us have any experience owning a Lexus or Toyota
, I own and I am driving a Lexus right now.If it were me, I would be plenty pissed at Lexus and it would be very hard for me to buy their products again. Anyways, a GS400h never made any sense.
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06-16-14, 02:28 PM
#34
Lexus Test Driver
I agree that it's not just about if a product fails, but how the manufacturer handles it that matters in the ownership experience. Machines break. Fancy machines have more potential to break.
06-16-14, 02:39 PM
#35
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glad it worked out for you and others.
i certainly have no overall complaints about my experiences with lexus service, although they did put a front stabilizer bar in upside down once and caused me no end of problems, but they did at least admit it and made it up to me.
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06-16-14, 03:47 PM
#36
don't know if you meant me, but if your experience is pretty common (that lexus will take care of reasonable owners with major hybrid issues out of warranty) then that's great, and there was no intent to 'twist' what you said, simply read what you wrote.
glad it worked out for you and others.
i certainly have no overall complaints about my experiences with lexus service, although they did put a front stabilizer bar in upside down once and caused me no end of problems, but they did at least admit it and made it up to me.
glad it worked out for you and others.
i certainly have no overall complaints about my experiences with lexus service, although they did put a front stabilizer bar in upside down once and caused me no end of problems, but they did at least admit it and made it up to me.
06-16-14, 05:47 PM
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Wow, talk about lack of comprehension or not understanding sentences. Maybe you were just trying to be cute but it looks like you actually did not understand I was giving a scenario of how I would feel if I had a car that had a major component failure/$7000 repair bill just after 100K miles and you somehow mistook it that I was saying I did not own a car
Many people including me would argue that Lexus does not have a great track record of taking care people out of warranty on many known design issues based on our experiences but that is for other threads.
Your story is one where you are praising a car and the cars hybrid system that completely failed just after 100K miles to the tune of a $7000 repair bill which I find very odd.
Your story is one where you are praising a car and the cars hybrid system that completely failed just after 100K miles to the tune of a $7000 repair bill which I find very odd.
If I were him, I wouldn't have even mentioned this story in this thread, cuz it completely contradicts any sort of reliability that Lexus has with this particular hybrid system. It is also very odd to praise a hybrid system that completely failed at only 104k
Others have not been so fortunate with Lexus covering the out of warranty claims on failed hybrid systems, others have like you said. If you got stuck paying that $7000 repair bill like some owners may have experienced or may experience would you still be praising the hybrid system that completely failed and how Lexus handled it?
I guess any two people in the same thread that disagrees with him are somehow automatically friends? 
And for the record, I have owned 7 Lexus models in my lifetime. 7
06-16-14, 06:11 PM
#38
But as I said before, Lexus hybrid failures are very low, and their hybrids are their most reliable vehicles.
06-16-14, 06:19 PM
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I see hybrid hate is strong... possibility of something breaking always exists... thankfully in the case of Lexus and Hybrids, it is very low possibility and even if it happens, Lexus will take care of you.
But as I said before, Lexus hybrid failures are very low, and their hybrids are their most reliable vehicles.
But as I said before, Lexus hybrid failures are very low, and their hybrids are their most reliable vehicles.
Its the exact opposite since not "anyone" or "everyone" feels that way. My story is my story and if it scares some people away that is fine and dandy and just. Again I could have easily not even mentioned it. I explained my ownership experience which is relevant to the thread, people have seen the car, driven my car, its been all over and it carries more WEIGHT than he could ever muster.
06-17-14, 12:15 AM
#40
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So basically your Lexus hybrid system failed completely at only 104K miles, but would have cost you $7,000 (
) if not for your special relationship with Lexus? And this is somehow proof of a reliable hybrid system? You just made a case that these hybrid systems (at least the one in the Lexus GS450h) are not that reliable at all! 104K miles is nothing for pretty much any and all Toyota/Lexus vehicles. Yet your Lexus HYBRID failed at only 104K? Not good.
Sounds to me you got pretty lucky because of your "relationship". Doesn't sound like a reliable system, however.
) if not for your special relationship with Lexus? And this is somehow proof of a reliable hybrid system? You just made a case that these hybrid systems (at least the one in the Lexus GS450h) are not that reliable at all! 104K miles is nothing for pretty much any and all Toyota/Lexus vehicles. Yet your Lexus HYBRID failed at only 104K? Not good.Sounds to me you got pretty lucky because of your "relationship". Doesn't sound like a reliable system, however.
How can a complete hybrid system failure be a testament to Lexus hybrids?
Kudos to Lexus for taking care of one of their own, and I know they have done other "good will" gestures for other loyal customers with other issues just out of warranty. But seriously, a complete hybrid system failure at only 104K miles is not good at all and I can't see how anyone can see that this is anything but a terrible example for Lexus hybrids.
Kudos to Lexus for taking care of one of their own, and I know they have done other "good will" gestures for other loyal customers with other issues just out of warranty. But seriously, a complete hybrid system failure at only 104K miles is not good at all and I can't see how anyone can see that this is anything but a terrible example for Lexus hybrids.
So if one is to look at the big picture, Toyota/Lexus hybrids overall can reach high mileage with very little or major repairs. Also as LexsCTJill states that the hybrid component is like another part which have a life span that can fail at anytime and is not to last forever like any other part on any vehicle.
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06-17-14, 08:42 AM
#41
Lexus Test Driver
Anyone in that situation would be greatly upset knowing that the possibility exists of having to dish out $7,000.00 out of pocket to fix a broken hybrid system.
^^ This ^^
If I were him, I wouldn't have even mentioned this story in this thread, cuz it completely contradicts any sort of reliability that Lexus has with this particular hybrid system. It is also very odd to praise a hybrid system that completely failed at only 104k
Yes, he still would.
Umm, yea, we're not friends. Not that we're enemies or anything, but I don't even know you I guess any two people in the same thread that disagrees with him are somehow automatically friends?
And for the record, I have owned 7 Lexus models in my lifetime. 7
^^ This ^^
If I were him, I wouldn't have even mentioned this story in this thread, cuz it completely contradicts any sort of reliability that Lexus has with this particular hybrid system. It is also very odd to praise a hybrid system that completely failed at only 104k
Yes, he still would.
Umm, yea, we're not friends. Not that we're enemies or anything, but I don't even know you
I guess any two people in the same thread that disagrees with him are somehow automatically friends? And for the record, I have owned 7 Lexus models in my lifetime. 7
But you can't extrapolate conclusions from 1 failure.
06-17-14, 09:53 AM
#42
But once again, it needs to be said that Lexus/Toyota hybrids are really, really reliable... they sold 1.4 million of them just last year and over 6 million overall... it is not some fringe technology.
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