ALL About Leasing and Buying
#46
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Guys keep this mature.
There is an old adage about not buying used cars from the North, but as I heard growing up it was more related to rust and underbody issues due to road chemicals, etc from the harsher winters.
A lot of advances have made that much less of a concern over the last 20+ years.
There is an old adage about not buying used cars from the North, but as I heard growing up it was more related to rust and underbody issues due to road chemicals, etc from the harsher winters.
A lot of advances have made that much less of a concern over the last 20+ years.
#47
Lexus Fanatic
The only thing I would question is your advice not to buy cars from the north due to transmission problems caused by snow. While some people may have to rock (go from D to R repeatedly) to get out of a snow bank, this is not a common occurrence and rarely causes damage. Personally I would be more wary of cars with trailer hitches. Towing heavy trailers are much more detrimental to a transmission than snow.
I guess I am excluded from this, as I have never been stuck in the snow and I live in the North.
I also guess cold weather testing is a myth too...
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 07-06-14 at 02:23 PM.
#48
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
So what? Does that mean you should avoid Northern cars? Seriously, how many times will someone get stuck in the snow that the their cars tranny is rocked causing wear and tear? So now we have to stay away from northern cars.
I would probably be more worried about a car from Texas being brought up to the North, manufactures have said that the southern cars are not built for the North. So they say...
I would probably be more worried about a car from Texas being brought up to the North, manufactures have said that the southern cars are not built for the North. So they say...
You are entitled to your opinion, which is fine, but YOU GOTTA stop putting words in my mouth! You sound like a spoiled kid who wants everything his way, and when he cant get it , he gets angry.
Not only it is mine opinion that cars can develop transmission problems when they get stuck in snow, i also provided a few posts from others having similar issue.
Last edited by FastTags; 07-06-14 at 02:17 PM.
#49
Lexus Fanatic
Guys keep this mature.
There is an old adage about not buying used cars from the North, but as I heard growing up it was more related to rust and underbody issues due to road chemicals, etc from the harsher winters.
A lot of advances have made that much less of a concern over the last 20+ years.
There is an old adage about not buying used cars from the North, but as I heard growing up it was more related to rust and underbody issues due to road chemicals, etc from the harsher winters.
A lot of advances have made that much less of a concern over the last 20+ years.
#50
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by DaveGS4
There is an old adage about not buying used cars from the North, but as I heard growing up it was more related to rust and underbody issues due to road chemicals, etc from the harsher winters.
#51
Lexus Champion
So what? Does that mean you should avoid Northern cars? Seriously, how many times will someone get stuck in the snow that the their cars tranny is rocked causing wear and tear? So now we have to stay away from northern cars.
I would probably be more worried about a car from Texas being brought up to the North, manufactures have said that the southern cars are not built for the North. So they say...
I would probably be more worried about a car from Texas being brought up to the North, manufactures have said that the southern cars are not built for the North. So they say...
#52
Lexus Fanatic
I think it is myth, but you never know.
#53
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
I think the story of south vs north is myth, but a few years ago, a lot of Canadians were bringing US vehicles to Canada to take advantage of the exchange rate and price differences. I remember specifically Toyota Canada and Lexus Canada saying on their website that some US built models were not built with door seals, and other components designed for Canadian climates.
I think it is myth, but you never know.
I think it is myth, but you never know.
Usually its applies to a Country change not from state to state.
So its possible that Canadian cars have different parts but i doubt Texas vs NY will have dicferent parts.
#54
The pursuit of F
To put the Canadian-destined cars vs US to rest, the differences are very subtle. Things like the 12V battery ("heavier-duty"), washer nozzles/pump, all-season washer fluid, etc are the main differences these days. Mechanically, all the same.
#55
Lexus Fanatic
Well I don't agree, I just looked up 13 MY Corolla and the US destination models will have a reg spec starter as well as a cold weather spec starter. Looking at the Canadian destination model, it only comes with cold spec part number.
A Puerto Rico destined Corolla gets its own hood lock while the Canada US part is different.
So I am sure there are some differences.
A Puerto Rico destined Corolla gets its own hood lock while the Canada US part is different.
So I am sure there are some differences.
#56
The pursuit of F
^^^ Let's not make this a thread about semantics. We're saying the same thing. Yes, there are differences and there are many (we can add Daytime Running Lights, speedo marking differences, "Parking Brake" and "Cruise" dash alert symbol differences, tire brands, ETC... ), but my point is none have a major impact in changing the performance or intended function of the vehicle from one country to another.
Back on point of this thread. I wanted to add that to those who are in Canada, if you are not comfortable in negotiating a price or simply don't have time to car shop for the best deal, check out http://unhaggle.com or http://carcostcanada.com to get you the best price in your location.
Back on point of this thread. I wanted to add that to those who are in Canada, if you are not comfortable in negotiating a price or simply don't have time to car shop for the best deal, check out http://unhaggle.com or http://carcostcanada.com to get you the best price in your location.
#57
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by DaveGS4
There is an old adage about not buying used cars from the North, but as I heard growing up it was more related to rust and underbody issues due to road chemicals, etc from the harsher winters.
A lot of advances have made that much less of a concern over the last 20+ years.
#58
Lexus Fanatic
I think the story of south vs north is myth, but a few years ago, a lot of Canadians were bringing US vehicles to Canada to take advantage of the exchange rate and price differences. I remember specifically Toyota Canada and Lexus Canada saying on their website that some US built models were not built with door seals, and other components designed for Canadian climates.
I think it is myth, but you never know.
I think it is myth, but you never know.
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-06-14 at 07:01 PM.
#59
Lexus Fanatic
Are you referring to just Toyota/Lexus models built without door sears, or American-built vehicles in general? Buick's Verano, built in Wixom, MI, has triple-sealed doors and five layers of insulation in the roof, though, admittedly, that seems to have been done more for the car's library-quietness than for extreme-weather insulation.
The issue I have with Buick is that they mask noise and the Verano maskes its Chevy Cruze roots where as Toyota engineered a near silent and hush Toyota Avalon without the need to hide the noise.
The masking of noise is the problem I have with Buick. I just wish they made their cars silent to begin with.
#60
Lexus Fanatic
mmarshall, triple door seals are nothing new to Toyota and Lexus products.
The issue I have with Buick is that they mask noise and the Verano maskes its Chevy Cruze roots where as Toyota engineered a near silent and hush Toyota Avalon without the need to hide the noise.
The masking of noise is the problem I have with Buick. I just wish they made their cars silent to begin with.
The issue I have with Buick is that they mask noise and the Verano maskes its Chevy Cruze roots where as Toyota engineered a near silent and hush Toyota Avalon without the need to hide the noise.
The masking of noise is the problem I have with Buick. I just wish they made their cars silent to begin with.
We've been over the Verano's Opel-Astra roots (not Cruze) several times. There are some similarities to the Cruze platform, but it is primarily Astra-derived.
Anyhow, no offense, but we're getting somewhat off-topic (me included). I had brought up the question of which particular American-built vehicles you were referring to.......but it (now) obviously seems to be only Toyota/Lexus. We were on the general topic of leasing, but somehow the issue of American-built vs. Canadian models coming up to Canada got involved over door-insulation. .