View Poll Results: What should the next LS go after?
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Next Lexus LS (2018 model)
02-23-17, 06:22 PM
#2026
Lexus Fanatic
Bear in mind that almost no LS500s would be $79k, just as almost no 740s are $81k. A modestly equipped 740 AWD is about $90k, a modestly equipped LS500 AWD around $87k is what we're really talking about. For me that would be a $8k increase from what i paid for my 2015, a 10% increase. Bear in mind yes it's a SWB but most LS460s are, so returning owners are likely to be SWB owners.
02-23-17, 06:24 PM
#2027
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by e325rkh
Yes, that would be enticing. However, playing devils advocate, at $79k, name aside, is this at least $10k better than a G90?
02-23-17, 06:24 PM
#2028
Lexus Test Driver
Well, BMW went through a major generational change to the 7 series between 2015 and 2016.
They dumped the SWB during this generational shift and redid everything, including a new platform I think.
2015 740iL: $78,000
2016 740i: $81,000 +3.8% (all models L)
2015 750iL: $91,000
2016 750i: $94,400 +3.7% (all models L)
2017 went up a few hundred dollars, not a generational shift.
If Lexus did the same thing, it would MSRP at around $80k and yes, the 2016 LS 460 L is $78k, sorry.
Audi is about to introduce an all-new A8 as well in 2018. I doubt they jump 10% in price let alone 25%, that's crazy.
They dumped the SWB during this generational shift and redid everything, including a new platform I think.
2015 740iL: $78,000
2016 740i: $81,000 +3.8% (all models L)
2015 750iL: $91,000
2016 750i: $94,400 +3.7% (all models L)
2017 went up a few hundred dollars, not a generational shift.
If Lexus did the same thing, it would MSRP at around $80k and yes, the 2016 LS 460 L is $78k, sorry.
Audi is about to introduce an all-new A8 as well in 2018. I doubt they jump 10% in price let alone 25%, that's crazy.
Last edited by Rhambler; 02-23-17 at 06:28 PM.
02-23-17, 06:25 PM
#2029
Lexus Champion
Pending wife's approval, of course.
02-23-17, 06:28 PM
#2030
Lexus Fanatic
None of that better tech will be on it at the base price lol. You're comparing your loaded GS to a base LS. I made that trade and my loaded GS had equipment my rather basic LS doesn't have.
02-23-17, 06:29 PM
#2031
Originally Posted by Rhambler
Well, BMW went through a major generational change to the 7 series between 2015 and 2016.
They dumped the SWB during this generational shift and redid everything, including a new platform I think.
2015 740iL: $78,000
2016 740i: $81,000 +3.8%
2015 750iL: $91,000
2016 750i: $94,400 +3.7%
2017 went up a few hundred dollars, not a generational shift.
If Lexus did the same thing, it would MSRP at around $80k.
They dumped the SWB during this generational shift and redid everything, including a new platform I think.
2015 740iL: $78,000
2016 740i: $81,000 +3.8%
2015 750iL: $91,000
2016 750i: $94,400 +3.7%
2017 went up a few hundred dollars, not a generational shift.
If Lexus did the same thing, it would MSRP at around $80k.
02-23-17, 06:30 PM
#2032
Lexus Champion
Bear in mind that almost no LS500s would be $79k, just as almost no 740s are $81k. A modestly equipped 740 AWD is about $90k, a modestly equipped LS500 AWD around $87k is what we're really talking about. For me that would be a $8k increase from what i paid for my 2015, a 10% increase. Bear in mind yes it's a SWB but most LS460s are, so returning owners are likely to be SWB owners.
For some reason I was thinking you mentioned previously something about $10k off. My bad.
Last edited by JDR76; 02-23-17 at 06:35 PM.
02-23-17, 06:34 PM
#2033
Originally Posted by JDR76
I think so. I think the G90 is nice and is worth the price, but the styling is really not for me. At $79k, that's only $18k more than my GS, for a lot more car, more engine, and much better tech. I'd seriously go there.
Pending wife's approval, of course.
Pending wife's approval, of course.
02-23-17, 06:36 PM
#2034
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by JDR76
You paid $79k for your 15? Isn't that full price? For some reason I thought you got a better deal than that.
That's the other thing. LS460 owners from the last 4-5 years to now are used to steep discounts which won't be there for the new car for a while. Remember that $10k off is the starting point on a 7 Series.
02-23-17, 06:36 PM
#2035
Originally Posted by JDR76
You paid $79k for your 15? Isn't that full price? For some reason I thought you got a better deal than that.
02-23-17, 06:36 PM
#2036
Lexus Champion
I think the pedestrian avoidance and new HUD are good advancements.
02-23-17, 06:38 PM
#2037
Lexus Champion
That was the sticker. We have to compare MSRP to MSRP when discussing setting MSRP prices. I paid ~$10k less than that.
That's the other thing. LS460 owners from the last 4-5 years to now are used to steep discounts which won't be there for the new car for a while. Remember that $10k off is the starting point on a 7 Series.
That's the other thing. LS460 owners from the last 4-5 years to now are used to steep discounts which won't be there for the new car for a while. Remember that $10k off is the starting point on a 7 Series.
02-23-17, 06:42 PM
#2038
Lexus Fanatic
So that's just the thing, if an AWD LS optioned in a restrained way is $87k, and Let's say I can get $5k off which is a lot on a new model, if we are talking actual transaction price I'm paying $14,000 more than I paid for my 15, which is in fact a 20% increase.
These are all reasons why they need to be conservative with pricing.
These are all reasons why they need to be conservative with pricing.
02-23-17, 06:45 PM
#2039
Lexus Champion
Totally understand your view on pricing, Steve. All good points. I just think it'll be more. Lexus has been pretty bold on pricing lately.
Jeff
Jeff
02-23-17, 06:48 PM
#2040
Originally Posted by JDR76
I think the pedestrian avoidance and new HUD are good advancements.