View Poll Results: What should the next LS go after?
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Next Lexus LS (2018 model)
07-06-16 | 06:51 AM
#571
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07-06-16 | 06:57 AM
#572
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, it's still a superb luxury car, important or not. The LS, though, like many other sedans, seems to be falling to the rise of SUVs. SUVs, like it or not, are taking over the planet......especially with relatively cheap gas.
Originally Posted by mmarshall
I agree it sometimes gets out of hand. But, in all fairness, can't always blame it on me. I'm not aways the first to bring it up. 
07-06-16 | 07:24 AM
#573
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Getting back on topic, why has Lexus let this current LS go on for 10 years? I know Benz used to do really long production cycles, but not anymore. Since 2007 when the current LS went on sale, there have been 2 generations of S class, 2 generations of the Audi A8, 2 generations of the Jag XJ, 3 generations of the BMW 7 Series, and 3 different Cadillac models(DTS, XTS, and the CT6). With the way technology has changed in the upper end of the car market, Lexus has let themselves fall behind IMO.
Lexus really doesnt see fit to change much, as basically it you can keep moving units on a 10 year old design, why rip out the groundwork and lay on a new highly expensive foundation?
What really is selling, and sparking attention now though is interior design language and tech. The amount of crap one can install into their offering is what really is going to the sky. Self Parking, driver aids, car play, touchscreens, wifi, vehicle connect, etc etc.
07-06-16 | 09:59 AM
#574
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I think the fact of the matter is that the profitability forecast for the market for Sedans isnt there, especially flagships.
Lexus really doesnt see fit to change much, as basically it you can keep moving units on a 10 year old design, why rip out the groundwork and lay on a new highly expensive foundation?
What really is selling, and sparking attention now though is interior design language and tech. The amount of crap one can install into their offering is what really is going to the sky. Self Parking, driver aids, car play, touchscreens, wifi, vehicle connect, etc etc.
Lexus really doesnt see fit to change much, as basically it you can keep moving units on a 10 year old design, why rip out the groundwork and lay on a new highly expensive foundation?
What really is selling, and sparking attention now though is interior design language and tech. The amount of crap one can install into their offering is what really is going to the sky. Self Parking, driver aids, car play, touchscreens, wifi, vehicle connect, etc etc.
Getting back on topic, why has Lexus let this current LS go on for 10 years? I know Benz used to do really long production cycles, but not anymore. Since 2007 when the current LS went on sale, there have been 2 generations of S class, 2 generations of the Audi A8, 2 generations of the Jag XJ, 3 generations of the BMW 7 Series, and 3 different Cadillac models(DTS, XTS, and the CT6). With the way technology has changed in the upper end of the car market, Lexus has let themselves fall behind IMO.
07-27-16 | 12:03 PM
#575
Lexus flagship spotted testing in the desert
07-27-16 | 07:41 PM
#580
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07-27-16 | 08:16 PM
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The great dash-to-axle ratio (distance from A-pillar to front axle) suggests that this is a front-engine, rear-wheel drive vehicle, NOT a FWD ES.
Not to mention, that with the new LS due out in the next year or so, and the ES not due out for another 2 years or so, we are expecting to see the new LS out testing. So it is more likely that this is the LS and not the ES.
Not to mention, that with the new LS due out in the next year or so, and the ES not due out for another 2 years or so, we are expecting to see the new LS out testing. So it is more likely that this is the LS and not the ES.
Last edited by Sulu; 07-27-16 at 08:22 PM.
07-27-16 | 08:19 PM
#583
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07-27-16 | 08:20 PM
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07-27-16 | 09:39 PM
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I HIGHLY doubt Lexus is going to change the formula on the ES. That has always been a great seller for them, and very profitable basing it on the Camry chassis with the Camry engines/drivetrains. Besides they spent a bunch of $$$$ tooling it to move production from Japan to the Kentucky Camry factory, I think they're committed to building the ES there on the same line.
As for the headrests, its a testing mule, they put parts from other cars in there that won't be seen on the final car just to get it on the road and test other systems not related to the seats/headrests.
I will say the camo tailights are rather interesting. I'm sure we aren't going back to 50's Cadillacs in terms of tailight design, I'm sure its a red herring to hide the real styling of the rear end/tailights.
As for the headrests, its a testing mule, they put parts from other cars in there that won't be seen on the final car just to get it on the road and test other systems not related to the seats/headrests.
I will say the camo tailights are rather interesting. I'm sure we aren't going back to 50's Cadillacs in terms of tailight design, I'm sure its a red herring to hide the real styling of the rear end/tailights.