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Old 10-02-16, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Very sad how the LS went from being perennial #1 seller to a non entity in such a short time.

For those of you that say well SUVs are the new thing but Lexus really has no SUVs in the LS price range that sell well, so those customers went to other brands.
Yes, very sad what Lexus has done with the LS. I cant believe people are buying the LS which is how old?

As for the segment, I believe the segment is flat, however the Tesla S is the only vehicle attracting big time sales compared to where they were a few years ago which was nowhere.

A LS hydrogen car is on the way.
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Not sure what they are doing with suspension, but looking at the last picture, the 5LS has some major 4x4 stance, even compared to the current LS that's right next to it.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Yes, very sad what Lexus has done with the LS.
That's just it, Lexus for the past 10 years has not done anything for the LS. Unless all this time they were working on something revolutionary? Then again, the article says no new powertrains, so it's the same old carry over story as with any major Lexus release for the past 10 years.
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Default Rendered: Setting the Low Bar for the Next-Generation Lexus LS



Using recent spy shots and plenty of vodka for inspiration, Russian website Kolёsa has illustrated a possible design for the next-generation Lexus LS — there’s the front view above, and also this rear angle:



Ignore the uneven styling and the massive c-pillar, and there’s some minor potential in this rendering. The low hood line reminds me of the LC design, and the coupe-like profile would match rumors that the next-generation LS will target the Porsche Panamera and Jaguar XJ. The rear design even makes a case for the LF-FC taillight design to make it to production.

Of course, I recommend squinting your eyes and not focusing too much on the negatives — but what do you think of this design?
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^^^ Damn that was alot of vodka
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Old 10-02-16, 05:30 PM
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Default Rumor: Lexus Vehicles to Get Twin-Turbo V6 Engine Option?

Autoblog is reporting that the long-expected next-generation Toyota Supra will be powered by the same twin-turbo V6 engine rumored to be used in the new Lexus LS and Lexus GS:

We know that BMW and Toyota are working on a joint product…Unless Toyota wants to use Bimmer power, they’ll need to shoehorn one of their own under the [new Supra’s] hood.

That leads us to this rumor of a twin-turbocharged V6 that will presumably power the new Lexus GS and LS…Mag-X cites Toyota insiders and even gives an engine code, 943F. This engine allegedly will make more than 400 horsepower and more than 300 lb-ft of torque.


The underlying Mag-X rumor about Lexus adopting a TT V6 was originally published in May, and the biggest question was the specifications — how does a 400 horsepower engine with twin turbos only put out 325lb.ft of torque?

(Regardless, a turbocharged V6 of any description would be a welcome addition to the Lexus lineup — it could be used in everything from the LS to the RX, and would finally push the venerable 2GR V6 engine out to pasture.)
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/07/22/t...urbo-v6-rumor/
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Originally Posted by SNiiP3R
That's just it, Lexus for the past 10 years has not done anything for the LS. Unless all this time they were working on something revolutionary? Then again, the article says no new powertrains, so it's the same old carry over story as with any major Lexus release for the past 10 years.
This is really not all that accurate. The LS underwent a considerable refresh in 2013 that included nearly half its components being replaced, an all new front end and rear end, an entirely new dashboard and control layout, significant stiffening of the structure and reworking of the suspension and drive controls. A 13+ 460 is quite a different car than a previous 460.

Now, that's not to say it doesn't need a full replacement and hasn't needed one for some time, it does and it has but to say they've done "nothing" isn't fair. They've done as much as they could do without really replacing the car and platform.

As to why does someone buy one, it's an excellent value, it's a very reliable and well made car that will no doubt last a long, long time and deliver 200k trouble free miles. The LS has a lot of loyal customers, and compared to newer cars out there it still holds its own, despite being considerably cheaper.

Bear in mind right now you can get an $80k 460 for $65k. It's a lot of car for $65k. You can lease one everything in for $800. I don't regret buying mine in the slightest, are other entries in the segment more modern and objectively better? Yes but they're considerably more money. I'm paying $300-400 a month less in a lease payment for my LS than I would have anything else in the flagship class except a Jaguar XJ, which is also quite old...that's a lot of money.

A moderately optioned 740 is $1,200. S550 is $1,300+, A8L is $1,200. LS? $900 conservatively.

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That's a very bad Mickey Mouse rendering!
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I could have done better lol
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Hopefully way more HP than this, 400HP just can't cut it in today's market. They are one of the last in game and can't top the existing competition?
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Old 10-02-16, 08:41 PM
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Hopefully way more HP than this, 400HP just can't cut it in today's market. They are one of the last in game and can't top the existing competition?
Yup, agreed. I think the new 2.5 in the Audi TTrs makes the same torque and HP ratings as the 5.0 in the LC
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Very sad how the LS went from being perennial #1 seller to a non entity in such a short time.

For those of you that say well SUVs are the new thing but Lexus really has no SUVs in the LS price range that sell well, so those customers went to other brands.
It would've only been sad if Lexus didn't have a plan and actually released a brand new LS and still failed. They very obviously delayed the LS by several years. Its very 'long game' type thinking, wait several years while refreshing the current LS again to debut the new LS when the time was right.
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Default 2018 Lexus LS to Arrive at Dealers in Q3 2017

In the realm of full-size luxury sedans, the S-Class is king, the 7 Series is the driver’s choice, and the A8 is slated to receive a new generation in the near future. However, no other full-size luxury sedan is in need of a replacement as much as the Lexus LS does.

Happily, however, the Japanese brand has something in the pipeline, something that will make amends for the rather old fourth-generation LS. In production since August 2006, the LS is slated to get renewed in 2017. That makes the LS almost 11 years old by the time the new model will enter production in May or June.

As per Carmaker1 via Lexus Enthusiast, who cite an article published by Mag-X, the place of unveiling for the all-new Lexus LS is the Detroit Auto Show.

By way of explanation, the Japanese brand will unleash the new kid on the block in January 2017. Considering that the first units will arrive at JDM dealers the third quarter, the all-new Lexus LS will set foot on U.S. soil for the 2018 model year. The rendering featured above is said to be the closest there is to the real deal.

Beyond the 2015 Lexus LF-FC Concept-inspired exterior design cues, the 2018 Lexus LS will be powered by the 2UR-GSE V8 found under the hood of the LC 500. The 5.0-liter engine is good for 467 horsepower (348 kW) and it is paired to a 10-speed automatic. A hybrid powertrain will be offered as well, combining a 3.5-liter V6 with two electric motors, a Li-Ion battery, and two transmissions: a CVT and a four-speed automatic.

We’re still more than half a year away from the debut of the 2018 Lexus LS (XF50), but the wait will be worth it. Fingers crossed the cabin design and quality will mirror that of the bite-the-back-of-your-hand beautiful exterior. Come on, Lexus! Don't let LS fans down with more waiting around than we'd prefer.
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I didn't understand the hydrogen strategy in the past but it appears even though Tesla does well in the US but for densely populated metropolitan cities, fuel cell would be the better choice.
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I didn't understand the hydrogen strategy in the past but it appears even though Tesla does well in the US but for densely populated metropolitan cities, fuel cell would be the better choice.
Why do you say that?
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