View Poll Results: What should the next LS go after?
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Next Lexus LS (2018 model)
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WOW, thank you! See what slips so easily through the cracks CL? We need to be accessing Mag X and other Japanese sources, as it's very clear Western automotive media remains very much out of the loop at times, while things quietly spill around in Japan. Internal people already saw the next LS last fall, as well as regional executives in the summer of 2014, so clearly it is very far along, but not enough for full introduction.
I will love to hear one day how long it took to develop this car, as Toyota product planning would've originally committed to something circa 2008 for the 5LS programme in some form. Perhaps Akio Toyoda taking over in 2009 changed all of that, as its clear that the MY2013 LS was styled before the March 2011 distasters in Japan and wouldn't exactly be a 5 minute job. That's at least 6-8 years behind anything 5LS, even longer than the LS400.
I hope that May 2017 date is inaccurate and applies to a variant of the 5LS. Japanese prototypes of that car must be testing in secret by now, heading to Europe or stateside in the coming months as final evaluation prototypes. For that matter, one hasn't even seen the LC coupe either.
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That mule looks like a giant ES with an old Nissan Cefiro rear end. I hope they have a sharp chiseled look like with the RX, that would make the LS stand out in a sea of boring exec limos.
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This should be a clean sheet of paper or close to it. The RX is a FWD-based crossover, which is no matter what, not on the same level. Doesn't mean it should ditch the Spindle Grille, but treat it like BMW has always with the trademark kidney grilles, by redesigning around it. A 4-door version of the LF-LC with moderate differentiation would've been interesting though.
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That mule has a rounded rear instead of the current LS' sharp edges but you're right, it's just a mule. Anyway I hope Lexus get brave and do something with a CLS, A7 or Panamera-style swoopy roof line. The big spindle and chiseled lines from the latest Lexus designs would work great on a big 4-door coupe instead of a typical luxo-barge.
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Guys it's a mule, a mule means none of the bodywork you see has anything to do with the final design. It's a collection of existing bits and pieces grafted together to cover up the underpinnings.
The only things we can tell are proportion related, i.e. wheelbase, width, etc...
The only things we can tell are proportion related, i.e. wheelbase, width, etc...
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hydrogen is a dumb bet, there is no infrastructure for it outside of socal and japan. do you really want to limit your car to two markets?
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there will likely be a hydrogen version, just an showcase of their flagship technology. Dual FC engines with around 300hp, maybe more EV hp total. It will likely be sold only in Japan. There were some rumors already in japanese mags and posted here few months back.
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natural gas ls would have been more impressive.
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great insights! thought we'd let the front page in too...
https://www.clublexus.com/articles/2...to-talk-about/
https://www.clublexus.com/articles/2...to-talk-about/
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Natural gas makes no sense at all, Japanese dont have oil/gas sources, they need renewable energy storage for next millennium.