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Old 09-04-15, 11:21 AM
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Those are brand new cars that they still cant deliver easily... 2012 RR Sport can be gotten with low mileage for 35k in my neck of the woods (Europe), white MSRP was well over 70k.... thats way worse resale value than competition.
You're still off base and just proved my point. A 2012 sport is almost a 5 year old vehicle based on model years ('12, '13, '14, '15, '16). 50% depreciation is very solid after 5 yrs. Plenty of AMG owners wish their cars could retain 50% of value after 5 model yrs.

anyway back to the XF...
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Originally Posted by kwr
You're still off base and just proved my point. A 2012 sport is almost a 5 year old vehicle based on model years ('12, '13, '14, '15, '16). 50% depreciation is very solid after 5 yrs. Plenty of AMG owners wish their cars could retain 50% of value after 5 model yrs.

anyway back to the XF...
What? There is no way you can spin the worst resale value and depreciation in luxury segment no matter how you try. Land Rover is the worst luxury depreciating brand followed only by a Jaguar.
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What? There is no way you can spin the worst resale value and depreciation in luxury segment no matter how you try. Land Rover is the worst luxury depreciating brand followed only by a Jaguar.
There's nothing to spin here. Go read for yourself and search prior years. Land Rover specific branded vehicles have high depreciation (LR4 and LR3 (Discovey). On the other hand RR (full-size, sport and Evoque) tend to hold their value.

https://www.alg.com/residual-value-awards/
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Originally Posted by Vladi
What? There is no way you can spin the worst resale value and depreciation in luxury segment no matter how you try. Land Rover is the worst luxury depreciating brand followed only by a Jaguar.
.....which makes for some great deals for Jags, as long as you make sure you dump the car before the warranty expires.

Nice engines, nice chassis, luxo-interior (in places), but questionable durability and quality.
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Originally Posted by kwr
I do agree that Jaguar has a resale problem. The real issue w Jag is no SUV and entry level car.
Jaguar had an entry-level car (the X-Class), with even a nice small wagon version of it. But, instead of redesigning it like they should have (it was essentially a redone Ford Mondeo with Jag styling and interior), they dumped it from the American market instead.
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The latest Jaguar XF may not look too different from the old model (or the smaller Jaguar XE), but dig beneath the sleek looks and you'll find a much-improved executive saloon. The XF is aiming to steal sales from the likes of the BMW 5 Series, Mercedes E Class and Audi A6, and this model is better than ever with a range of powerful and efficient diesel engines, a great drive and stylish interior.

Greg Carloss heads to the Southwest for some seat time in the 2016 Jaguar XF.
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I already felt the interior design was mediocre when I saw initial photos. It looks even worse now after seeing what Mercedes is putting in their new E-class. A new 5-series and A6 are also just around the corner. Lexus is due to replace the GS within the next 2-3 years as well.
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Yeah. These are at dealers now. I test drove one while my gf's RRS was in for service. It's a nice car but honestly a bit of a snoozefest since it's so close in looks to the last-gen. Also the interior...well let's just say the W213 E-class and G30 5-series will leave it in the dust.
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Oh lord, that Jag interior looks so dated now compared to most other luxury manufacturers. They're not going to sell many of these, and Jag knows that.

The good news, 2-3 years from now, what a deal these are going to be....if you can get an extended warranty.
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Default Next Jaguar XF Sportbrake Destined For U.S., JLR Exec Says


Not to be left out of one of the most rarified segments in the U.S., the next-generation Jaguar XF Sportbrake is set to cross the pond for the first time.

Hot on the heels of Volvo's premium wagon resurgence, the XF Sportbrake will finally be available in the U.S. once the new version based on the latest XF sedan is introduced, Jaguar Land Rover North America head Joe Eberhardt told Motor Trend last week.

Eberhardt says the Sportbrake won't be a roughed-up wagon like the recently revealed Volvo V90 Cross Country and Mercedes-Benz E-Class All-Terrain, but a traditional long-roofed model and available with the latest JLR Ingenium family of engines. It's likely the Sportbrake engine lineup will mirror that of the XF sedan's.

The last Jaguar wagon to make it to the States was the unloved X-Type Wagon, sold from 2005 until 2007 and in minuscule numbers. And the current XF Sportbrake that's been on sale in Europe since its 2012 unveil has long been denied entry into North America by JLR execs.

This news comes after rumors earlier this year Jaguar would pull back on the wagon segment, which is predominantly German and sold in Europe. But with Audi and BMW only fielding compact luxury wagons in the U.S. (and Audi only selling the jacked-up A4 Allroad), Jaguar thinks it can go after buyers who don't want an SUV and don't want the Mercedes-Benz E-Class wagon or the upcoming Volvo V90 and V90 Cross Country.

For Jaguar, it will be interesting to see if the XF Sportbrake will step on the toes of the F-Pace crossover, which would probably be fine with Jaguar since they already can't make enough of them to satisfy demand. I, for one, would advocate the purchase of a Jaguar wagon over a Jaguar crossover.

There are going to be a lot of good-looking high-end wagons on sale next year. What a time to be alive.
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/10/nex...tined-for.html
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