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Old 08-04-15, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
motorweek noted it's almost the same size as lexus cth.

i note is has 50% more cargo room and is more than 10K less expensive, but the cth does get WAY better overall fuel economy though.

And the cth looks a lot more badass
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We introduce you to a new two-fer from Scion, the iA sedan and iM hatchback.
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Default 2016 Scion iM Review


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http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2016-scion-im-review/

Engine: 1.8L I4
Power: 137 HP / 126 LB-FT
Transmission: CVT
Drivetrain: Front-Wheel Drive
Engine Placement: Front
Curb Weight: 2,960 LBS
Seating: 2+3
MPG: 27 City / 36 HWY
Base Price: $20,050
As Tested Price: $20,790

Scion is all grown up. When the brand launched in 2003, it was as if Scion wanted to be the anti-Toyota. You could almost imagine it saying, "We aren't our parents, dude. We're different."

Scion's decision to eschew mainstream vehicles was largely successful. The original xA, xB, and tC were affordable, economical, stylish, and – most importantly – different. But the brand's aging lineup couldn't keep the interest of the young, urban buyers it so coveted. Sales suffered severely after the 2009 industry collapse and have failed to return to their 2006 peak. So much like the bearded 20-something that's finally realized an artisanal headcheese startup isn't going to pay the bills, Scion has finally introduced its first truly mainstream model, the 2016 iM.

You already know the basics on the iM, courtesy of Managing Editor Steven Ewing's testing in California in June. But since there's little substitute for more mileage and extra time with the car, we ventured out to Michigan's second largest city, Grand Rapids, for a second look.


Ewing spent most of his time on California's beautiful winding roads, but our second go in the iM was much more sedate, consisting largely of freeway cruising and some city driving. In short, these miles backed up our original assessment: the iM is exactly the kind of vehicle Scion needs right now. But that's not without a few problems.

We spent almost all of our drive time behind the wheel of the continuously variable transmission model which, in many ways is better than the six-speed manual-equipped car we originally tested. Toyota's CVT works well; it's on par with the industry's best. The transmission keeps the revs low and responds quickly to throttle inputs, but at the same time, the tach needle is quick to retreat when acceleration isn't demanded.

The stepped nature of the CVT is a bit off-putting at first – it feels a lot more sudden on the "upshifts" – but it's easy to ignore. Weirdly, there are no paddle shifters, but you can still pick your "gears" via the floor-mounted shifter.


We played with the CVT's sport setting, and while we wouldn't recommend using it on a regular basis, we liked the way it kicked up the revs upon corner entry. The engine never felt flat-footed midway through a turn, giving the impression that the iM doesn't hate a little bit of fun.

The CVT pairs nicely with the 1.8-liter engine, and its 137 horsepower and 126 pound-feet of torque are just enough for everyday conditions. Dig into the throttle from a standstill and there's a pleasant wave of torque in the low-to-middle part of the rev range. Unless you really play in the high rpms, the engine sounds smooth and quiet. NVH is par for the course.

Scion says the iM returns 28 miles per gallon in the city and 37 mpg on the highway, figures we had little issue approaching on the long freeway sprint from Grand Rapids to Detroit. We easily hit and stayed pegged at 36 mpg, falling just short of the EPA highway figure. Once in the metropolitan confines of northern Detroit, mileage dropped precipitously but not unexpectedly. By the time we returned our red iM to Autoblog HQ, the in-dash display showed a respectful 31 mpg, just a single mpg short of the CVT's 32-mpg combined rating.


Our initial review offered complaints about a lack of side support in the seats, but this author found no problems with comfort. Even near the completion of a 200-mile drive, we didn't find ourselves stretching and shifting in the driver's seat. We wish the iM had a telescopic steering wheel – it really should be standard equipment nowadays – but the car's seating position was just fine for your six-foot, one-inch driver. Visibility was great, too.

What wasn't great, however, was the iM's touchscreen infotainment system. The issue wasn't responsiveness, so much as the overall design. There are only four buttons, a ****, and a toggle switch on the seven-inch Pioneer display, but their uses seem to change. At times, the system felt almost deliberately obtuse.

For better or worse, the iM is subject to Scion's mono-spec pricing strategy. This means the car comes one way – what you see is what you get. The company doesn't provide buyers a way to fit things like a sunroof or heated seats, which can be a turnoff, considering competitors offer this stuff and much, much more. Those options cost money, though, and for $20,790 – including $740 for the CVT and $725 for destination – the iM is an incredibly competent and well-equipped car.

Perhaps more than any other Scion since the original xB, the iM feels like it's truly here to compete, rather than just standing alone as a semi-interesting side-note to a larger segment. It's not class-leading in any significant regard, but it is an honest alternative to mainstream competitors, with good fuel economy, a comfortable cabin, and a decent level of standard tech. Will that be enough to elevate Scion within the ranks of compact car manufacturers? It's hard to say. But now more than ever, Scion offers a well-rounded, solid hatchback in this highly competitive space.

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The day has finally come for you to meet one of the most exciting vehicles to join our Scion family, the 2016 iM, our first 5-door hatchback. Just like the 2016 iA, which also makes its debut on showroom floors today, this sporty model comes with plenty of standard premium features that often come at a premium price in our competitors. Come take a closer look at the iM.
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For under $20,000 the Scion iM comes with a standard backup camera, touchscreen radio, dual-zone automatic climate control and more. But the steering falls short of its more expensive competitors.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Very aggressive. Still not a fan of Scion though and would rather they reincorporate the models back to Toyota badges
Yes to that.
Look at Hyundai. Cheap to expensive. All in one. Seems to work just as well.
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Great value for the price. This is the real Fit fighter Toyota needed, not the crippled Yaris.

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Originally Posted by ydooby
Great value for the price. This is the real Fit fighter Toyota needed, not the crippled Yaris.
It is Corolla hatch... Yaris is class smaller/lower model.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
It is Corolla hatch... Yaris is class smaller/lower model.
The iA is being sold as the Yards sedan in the Canada market, so this cripples the Scion brand here. I think it's time for Toyota to shat or get off the pot. Enable Scion to compete against Toyota models and let the market decide or just kill off the brand.
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Originally Posted by ydooby
Great value for the price. This is the real Fit fighter Toyota needed, not the crippled Yaris.
except honda has now killed the fit by offering the hr-v.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
except honda has now killed the fit by offering the hr-v.
The Fit, however, undercuts the HR-V in price. It will still appeal to those who want a truly entry-level vehicle (by American standards), and don't see the need to spend the extra $$$$$ on something that is higher-stance, more utility-oriented and, with the AWD, designed for bad weather. I test-drove an HR-V EX and wasn't impressed at all with its road manners.....it was underpowered (more so than the Fit), had a driver's seat that didn't seem designed for late Americans, was uncomfortable-riding, and didn't handle particularly well. My brother (who is also my physical size) was strongly interested in one at first, but, after a couple of test-drives with an EX and LX himself, ended up buying something else.

With the iM, BTW, I can see now why Toyota didn't offer the Corolla hatchback here in the U.S., although the iM seems to come with some sport-oriented equipment that wouldn't necessarily have been on a bread-and-butter Corolla hatchback.

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
except honda has now killed the fit by offering the hr-v.
perfectly normal for them to offer both small hatch and small suv... Toyota will likely do the same by the end of the next year... HR-V is substantially more expensive and thus profitable than Fit.
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The Scion iM ushers in a new era of maturity for Toyota's youth-oriented brand. While still embracing such corporate cornerstones as evocative design and vehicle customization, the iM's real reason for being involves value and practicality.
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