2016 Cadillac CT6 (Page 4)
#151
Another issue I see is that the CT6 overlaps in price quite a bit with the CTS, which would kill CTS sales even more.
#152
Lexus Champion
I agree with your assessment...as I said the ATS and CTS aren't bad cars but they definitely aren't as good as the press was hyping them up to be. Consumers noticed that, along with the sticker prices, and as a result both vehicles sit on dealership lots for months on end. Go to any Cadillac dealer's website and there will be thousands on the hoods of these cars so technically they are quite a bit cheaper than the competition, but they still do not sell.
#153
Lexus Fanatic
I will at my earliest convenience. One of the editors at Motor Trend agreed with my assessment of the interior and he has sat in several CT6 mdoels. All it takes is a good eye to see the lack of attention to detail within the cabin. For example, Mercedes is putting aluminum buttons even in the C-class, whereas GM is putting cheap plastic buttons in their flagship Cadillac. Look at the LCD graphics in the rear seat entertainment system compared to the sleek tablets being used by the Germans. The air vents in the latest German cars are full aluminum whereas they are plastic here, and the speakers in the CT6 are mundane whereas the Germans are finishing them in metal.
As usual, General Motors is always late to the party.
As usual, General Motors is always late to the party.
So cool details I have noticed and really like are:
-crome tipped window switches
-Cadillac logo on the door sill (looks awesome)
-love how GM has two LED lights for the start/stop switch and not just one
-the camera rear view mirror is rearlly neat
-my favourite small detail is the crome/metal ring for the seat belt pivot on the B-pillar. (Nice touch)
Cadillac has a true winner here and this vehicle is every bit a flagship like a A8/S-class/7Series.
A ttV8 which is on the way will put this vehicle over $100k.
#154
Lexus Fanatic
Probably every upscale or flagship sedan in that price range today has a boatload of features. They have to justify that price somehow. That was one of the ways (among several) that VW, several years ago, justified a 90K price for their W12 Phaeton sedan...yet it still didn't catch on in the U.S., notwithstanding the fact that you couldn't get a V12/W12-cylinder vehicle anywhere else for the same price.
#155
Unless you're just saying that it's Cadillac's current "flagship" in the way that those models are the respective flagships of their brands.
They they are not at the same level with regard to each other.
#156
Lexus Test Driver
I like the CT-6! its the first large RWD sedan offered from caddy in 20 years! and it looks like a caddy which is nice.
however, a base 4 banger model? what in holy **** are they thinking? that car needs, NEEDS to have a v8 under the hood. I do like the styling, and the fact that it has lots of cool gizmos, but the rear tail lamps belong on a kia. front end is dead sexy and looks like a true American luxury car. dashboard is meh. looks too much like a modernized DTS deville,.
Cadillac used to be the standard of the world, and they built some very very beautiful and classy cars over the years. they need to drop this miserable FWD midsize rebadged chevy horse turds they have been squeezing out of Detroits anus for the last 15 years or so and get back to big, flashy, RWD cars. furthermore, Cadillac seems to be having some sort of identity crises and has been for years in recent memory, they started with the awful notorious blow up box northstar V8 trying to compete with germens, and they are STILL trying to be the germens, Cadillac, not to self, STOP PLAYING THE GERMAN GAME YOULL NEVER BE GERMAN!!!, caddy used to be better than Germany, they had there own identity and when you saw one going down the road you knew instantly what it was. they need to get back to there roots and do there OWN thing again like they did in the 1950s, be the greatest car, the world standard, and sadly I don't really ever see that happening again. really is a shame.
however, a base 4 banger model? what in holy **** are they thinking? that car needs, NEEDS to have a v8 under the hood. I do like the styling, and the fact that it has lots of cool gizmos, but the rear tail lamps belong on a kia. front end is dead sexy and looks like a true American luxury car. dashboard is meh. looks too much like a modernized DTS deville,.
Cadillac used to be the standard of the world, and they built some very very beautiful and classy cars over the years. they need to drop this miserable FWD midsize rebadged chevy horse turds they have been squeezing out of Detroits anus for the last 15 years or so and get back to big, flashy, RWD cars. furthermore, Cadillac seems to be having some sort of identity crises and has been for years in recent memory, they started with the awful notorious blow up box northstar V8 trying to compete with germens, and they are STILL trying to be the germens, Cadillac, not to self, STOP PLAYING THE GERMAN GAME YOULL NEVER BE GERMAN!!!, caddy used to be better than Germany, they had there own identity and when you saw one going down the road you knew instantly what it was. they need to get back to there roots and do there OWN thing again like they did in the 1950s, be the greatest car, the world standard, and sadly I don't really ever see that happening again. really is a shame.
#157
Lexus Fanatic
@Stereorob
Yes I4,but it does make pretty good power, has a 0-60 time of 6.1 secs, 265horses. The CT6 for the large size and the low weight is a pretty fantastic piece of engineering. The V8 is coming, supposed to be a 4.2 liter size.
Yes I4,but it does make pretty good power, has a 0-60 time of 6.1 secs, 265horses. The CT6 for the large size and the low weight is a pretty fantastic piece of engineering. The V8 is coming, supposed to be a 4.2 liter size.
#158
Lexus Fanatic
If they aren't intending it to truly be flagship level that changes my perception, but attention to detail is VERY important in the flagship class, when you sit in these cars they exude quality from every area, there isn't anything you can touch on or look at and say its not as high quality as it could be, that isn't the case with the CT6.
#159
If they aren't intending it to truly be flagship level that changes my perception, but attention to detail is VERY important in the flagship class, when you sit in these cars they exude quality from every area, there isn't anything you can touch on or look at and say its not as high quality as it could be, that isn't the case with the CT6.
#160
Moderator
iTrader: (16)
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Current Cadillac Sedans
ATS 182.8 in
CTS 195.5 in
XTS 202.0 in
CT6 204.1 in
If a sedan above the CT6 is coming, I can't imagine the XTS will be around much longer.
My guess as to a future Cadillac Sedan line
ATS ---> CT2
CTS ---> CT4
XTS ---> Bye
CT6 ---> CT6
??? ---> CT8
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Someone make the Cadillac Sixteen Concept a flagship already. Oh and keep the 13.6L 32-valve V16 as a nice ,,l,, to the German 12's
Last edited by Hoovey689; 01-28-16 at 02:17 PM.
#161
I like the CT-6! its the first large RWD sedan offered from caddy in 20 years! and it looks like a caddy which is nice.
however, a base 4 banger model? what in holy **** are they thinking? that car needs, NEEDS to have a v8 under the hood. I do like the styling, and the fact that it has lots of cool gizmos, but the rear tail lamps belong on a kia. front end is dead sexy and looks like a true American luxury car. dashboard is meh. looks too much like a modernized DTS deville,.
Cadillac used to be the standard of the world, and they built some very very beautiful and classy cars over the years. they need to drop this miserable FWD midsize rebadged chevy horse turds they have been squeezing out of Detroits anus for the last 15 years or so and get back to big, flashy, RWD cars. furthermore, Cadillac seems to be having some sort of identity crises and has been for years in recent memory, they started with the awful notorious blow up box northstar V8 trying to compete with germens, and they are STILL trying to be the germens, Cadillac, not to self, STOP PLAYING THE GERMAN GAME YOULL NEVER BE GERMAN!!!, caddy used to be better than Germany, they had there own identity and when you saw one going down the road you knew instantly what it was. they need to get back to there roots and do there OWN thing again like they did in the 1950s, be the greatest car, the world standard, and sadly I don't really ever see that happening again. really is a shame.
however, a base 4 banger model? what in holy **** are they thinking? that car needs, NEEDS to have a v8 under the hood. I do like the styling, and the fact that it has lots of cool gizmos, but the rear tail lamps belong on a kia. front end is dead sexy and looks like a true American luxury car. dashboard is meh. looks too much like a modernized DTS deville,.
Cadillac used to be the standard of the world, and they built some very very beautiful and classy cars over the years. they need to drop this miserable FWD midsize rebadged chevy horse turds they have been squeezing out of Detroits anus for the last 15 years or so and get back to big, flashy, RWD cars. furthermore, Cadillac seems to be having some sort of identity crises and has been for years in recent memory, they started with the awful notorious blow up box northstar V8 trying to compete with germens, and they are STILL trying to be the germens, Cadillac, not to self, STOP PLAYING THE GERMAN GAME YOULL NEVER BE GERMAN!!!, caddy used to be better than Germany, they had there own identity and when you saw one going down the road you knew instantly what it was. they need to get back to there roots and do there OWN thing again like they did in the 1950s, be the greatest car, the world standard, and sadly I don't really ever see that happening again. really is a shame.
#162
Lexus Fanatic
they are STILL trying to be the germens, Cadillac, not to self, STOP PLAYING THE GERMAN GAME YOULL NEVER BE GERMAN!!!, caddy used to be better than Germany, they had there own identity and when you saw one going down the road you knew instantly what it was. they need to get back to there roots and do there OWN thing again like they did in the 1950s, be the greatest car, the world standard, and sadly I don't really ever see that happening again. really is a shame.
I well-remember the Cadillacs of the 50s and 60s that you are referring to here, and, while they were nice cruisers, I wouldn't call them the standard of the world even back then. They were rattle-prone, had poorly-done paint jobs compared to their Lincoln and Chrysler Imperial competitors, and lacked the stability/handling of the Chrysler torsion/leaf suspension vehicles. They excelled primarily in chrome-laden bodies, fins, ride comfort, noise isolation, and a smooth engine....some of their less-expensive Buick Electra cousins actually had smoother automatic transmissions.
Last edited by mmarshall; 01-28-16 at 06:49 PM.
#163
Lexus Fanatic
Cadillac does not need to come back to the DTS buyer. The XTS sells as well as the DTS did.
#164
Lexus Fanatic
Well, one can have genuine disagreements, but, whether they actually need to or not, I think they are in fact going to do that, at least to some extent, with the CT6. I'll save final comments for a formal test-drive, but, at first glance, this looks head and shoulders above the XTS.
#165
Lexus Fanatic
I don't see how the CT6 can remind anybody of the DTS...