LexBob2

I'm sure that Caddy and Lincoln would prefer to not have to discount their flagship sedans too much, but if history is an indicator, they will before too long. As mentioned, $10k is probably not out of the question.

mmarshall

Agreed the Black Label prices are too high. I briefly looked at a couple Black Label MKCs recently (didn't write it up), and I thought the sticker-prices were outrageous for a compact 4-cylinder SUV that size....and I didn't think the interiors were any more impressive (despite some different trim-patterns) than the regular series. The Black Label status, though, does give you some nice ownership-perks, though...but it was stuff I could easily live without.

That will probably depend on how well (or how poorly) the Continental does against the CT6 and other competitors. If I like the car enough after a review, and if they are letting base models go between 40-50K (essentially 10K off), might even take one home...who knows? But definitely not before reviewing the CT6.

mmarshall

Welcome back.....have't seen you post for a while.

Both are considered full-size by today's American-market standards....but drivetrains differ.

The Continental, like its MKS predecessor, is essentially a slightly stretched version of the FWD Taurus platform, with a V6. Also, like the MKS, it has an AWD option.

The CT6, on the other hand, is done on the all-new GM Omega platform specifically done for the CT6, though it may (?) also be shared with some future large Buick sedans. It comes in both RWD and AWD versions, unlike its XTS predecessor, which was FWD/AWD. It has more engine-choices than the Continental, which comes on N/A and twin-turbo V6s. The CT6, like the Continental, has regular and twin-turbo V6s, but also a base turbo 2.0L four.

Vladi

This car did not transition from concept properly at all. It has lost all of the machismo.

Toys4RJill

I looked at the CT6 for Cadillac in Canada. There is already a $2000 incentive and the vehicle has yet to hit the showroom. Perhaps it's not tracking well internally within Cadillac.

mmarshall

How? This is not intend to be a macho-vehicle, but a classic full-size luxury car of non-sporting pretensions...something that the current market in the U.S. is notably short of, outside of the Kia K900, Hyundai Equus, and Lexus LS460.

Toys4RJill

Lincoln is calling their new theme, "Quiet Luxury" Sort of like Buick

mmarshall

Lincolns are supposed to be quiet. Thats nothing new....simply part of a luxury image. If one wants noise, they can go buy a Miata or Jeep Wrangler.

mmarshall

The Canadian market, though, is not the same as that of the U.S., for several reasons.

Toys4RJill

You miss what the term "Quiet Luxury" means as a definition for Lincoln. It does not mean low audible decibel quiet.

SW17LS

You miss what they mean by "quiet luxury". They're not saying the car is quiet, they're saying the sort of luxury is quiet. It's not brash, it doesn't have an in your face attitude.

"Quiet wealth"

mmarshall

OK....I think see what you and Jill are getting at. But, in the sense you are using the term, a better adjective might be "subdued" rather than quiet.

Toys4RJill

No, Lincoln refers to their new theme as "Quiet Luxury"

mmarshall

They've actually used that term before, along with other themes...."Travel Well", and "American Luxury". In my book, though, "quiet" means low-decibels, though I understand how it can be used to mean subdued.

BTW...if you (or anybody else reading this thread) gets a chance to try out or test-drive a Continental, by all means, give us a report. I plan to review one ASAP......along with the CT6.

LexBob2

I don't mind the "quiet luxury" theme. No doubt, a lot of thought went into it. I'm sure the narration in their ads will use words like understated, refined or something similar.