mmarshall

I'll let you have the last word on this discussion (as I sometimes do with Jill)....even if I don't totally agree with it. Not worth talking about it all evening. For our purposes on the forum, Allen K was probably right......the car itself is more important than the marketing and corporate politics behind it.

(all this talk, though, makes me even more eager to finally check one out...even more than with the CT6)

mmarshall

Tell that to KBB. It ranks #1 on the Most Comfortable Cars Under 30K list.

http://www.kbb.com/car-reviews-and-n.../2100000621-1/

LexBob2

C&D ranks the segment as they see it, Maxima, Avalon, Impala and Lacrosse in that order.

mmarshall

C&D tends to rank vehicles from a sport-oriented point of view, and, in that sense, they are correct.....the Maxima probably is on top. And, of course, they have never liked Buicks......except for the Regal GS.

pman6

acura RL haha didn't even have success at a lower price point

Toys4RJill

mmarshall has had a love for the Impala ever since it was released. Car & Driver did a big comparison a few ago and the Avalon still beat it. mmarshall likes the Impala, good for him but like I said earlier, nobody really takes the Impala seriously.

The RL has done fine for Acura.

mmarshall

Consumer Reports takes the Impala quite seriously....they fully agree with me. 95 out of 100 on a road test is something usually seen on the likes of the Lexus LS460, Tesla Model S, or Mercedes S550....unheard of for a mainstream Chevy sedan. It's not my fault if you (and maybe a couple of others) don't take CR seriously....that's your own business.


I think you're confusing the RL with the TL and its replacement TLX. The 2Gen RL was built like a bank vault. But, unfortunately, for several reasons, the public never warmed up to it. Its sales were very low, and dealerships had to practically give them away. Its RLX replacement, while not quite as bank-vault solid in construction quality, is, nevertheless, still a very nice product (I reviewed one), but it no longer has the SH-AWD system standard......a big decontenting, IMO.

mmarshall

The 1Gen RL (an outgrowth of the Acura Legend) was FWD, but not transverse.....its engine was mounted longitudinally. The 2Gen RL was not FWD......it had standard SH-AWD. It also listed for 45-50K, rather than 60K.

LexBob2

Acura dealerships are selling a little over 100 RLX per month (118 in August). It's surprising that it's still in their lineup.

Toys4RJill

Good catch,.but kind of irrelevant as we should be talking about the Continental.

I was hoping the new Lincoln Continental would have Continental tires, but they put Good Year Eagle F1 tires, the same OEM as the Maybach S600 V12 model.

mmarshall

Yeah, that gets back to what I was telling Jill. Both the RL and RLX ended up great products that, for the most part, sit around collecting dust. The problem is, though, if Acura does dump it, they have no flagship. And if the E-shifter and start-stop system in the new upcoming 2017 Buick LaCrosse turn off some potential buyers (and I don't care for them myself), the RL, along with the Lincoln MKZ, could be an alternative, especially with Acura shops discounting them heavily to move them.

LOWFAST

Agree, if it is not Continrental related click the "New Thread" button and post to your hearts content.

Toys4RJill

It remains to be seen how this new car does. I think it will do OK but the poor fuel economy ratings are a bit of a concern. The other thing that might be of concern is that there are no reviews out yet? Perhaps they are hiding something.

LOWFAST

Lincoln has botched this whole introduction from the get go. Mr "Alright alright alright" should have been driving a Continental in adds the past six months. They should have brought them out to classic car shows and parked them next to restored '60s examples. Should have had them out at cars and coffee. If they want younger buyers you have to get off your *** and find them. It is not a "build it and they will come" this is not Lincoln of 50 years ago. Pre release 50 to celebs, rappers and Sema guys. You have to create a buzz. And besides us car guys and gals no one in the general public knows about it or frankly gives a damn.

mmarshall

400 HP with AWD is not exactly a formula for winning economy-runs....but I'll admit that the lower-powered FWD versions don't do much, if any better.

Yes, you're correct......so far, I couldn't find any real test-drives either, except for the one with the quick trip around the Las Vegas Speedway that I posted earlier. I wouldn't be too concerned, though. First, there are plenty of static-reviews available, and second, that might just be part of Lincoln's marketing strategy.....keep the professional test-drivers under lock and key, and get people to actually go to the dealerships and test-drive the car for themselves, rather than rely on others. Unfortunately, Lincoln's current system of rather thinly-spread-out dealerships, and their policy of selling out of only certain Ford shops, doesn't help much.