Toys4RJill

Its well done for Lincoln. Not sure what you would want to be done better. For $50K is spot on.

oldcajun

For this application I don't think it matters whether the engine is transverse or longitudinal. The important drivetrain issue for me is the AWD. Ford's system sends about 50% of the power to the rear wheels most of the time. This improves the handling and eliminates torque steer. Ford has shown with the new Focus RS that they can tune their AWD system to shift most of the power to the rear wheel if desired. The transverse engine and original FWD design now have AWD and an selectable drift mode where more than 90% of the power goes to the rear wheels.
Steve

JDR76

My local dealer has a Reserve model listed for $99,999.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2586/overview/

Toys4RJill

Saw my first Continental in the wild today. Looks fantastic blending in with traffic. Really like the back end with the big Lincoln lettering. Nice chiseled lines.

MattyG

That dealership must be waiting for the one Lincoln loyalist who's also an early adopter - maybe someone who wants to be seen in one first. Because honestly that price is outrageously "bigly" for this particular Conti.

That's already past the base price of the S class and if a potential Lincoln buyer were to wander over to the Hyundai/Genesis store they can save $20K and get a full on awd V8 G90 which is clearly in another league. Continental is a better car at $45K-65K for Ford fans.

Toys4RJill

Have you ever seen a mid level Lexus like a specd out ES selling for $25k above invoice. I haven't. Perhaps it's just a misprint.

LexBob2

I was thinking misprint too. I didn't know you could spec one out that high.

MattyG

And you do realize that dealers may use all sorts of psychological tricks and claim it's a mistake right? It's a new car, and they just are throwing a spitball and can easily retreat and say it's a mistake. Hence that first buyer thinks they'll hammer out a ridiculous deal because maybe you'll call and say wtf.

You yourself took pics of a $78K Lincoln at a Canadian dealership did you not? Panel gaps and all? Invoiced from what you said. Nobody in Canada is going to pay that price for that particular car.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...nental-31.html

Toys4RJill

Why do you care so much? I don't understand your bashing of what looks like a really nice car. I saw what looked like a loaded Continental, it sure looked like $78k car. looked much better than a GS I saw earlier, and the GS looks better in person than in pics.

mmarshall

This is an excellent car for the price of the lower-line versions (45-55K), but, no offense folks...........anybody who would pay 100K for a Continental, even a top-level Reserve/Black-Label version with the 400 HP engine, would prove P.T. Barnum correct......

mmarshall

Have you gotten a chance to drive one yet, Jill?

SW17LS

Why the concern about "why we care"?

We care because we're car enthusiasts and we enjoy discussing and debating the merits of specific cars in the Car Chat forum.

mmarshall

Although I love my current ride, and probably won't be getting another one for probably another year or so (depending on if I need another knee operation and/or what my automotive needs will be), the base-level Continental has impressed me enough, even with its senseless inside E-door-releases and noisier-than necessary N/A 3.7L engine, that it ranks well up on my potential shopping list, along with the new 2017 LaCrosse, the Lincoln MKZ facelift (which addressed several of that vehicle's earlier problems), Lincoln MKC in the SUV line, and Lexus ES350. I'm concerned, though, about Lincoln's reliability, and, while I could probably live with the LaCrosse's non-defeatable stop/start system if I had to, the E-shifter, IMO, truly s**ks. The ES, of course, is one of the safest buys for reliability, and is otherwise a very nice comfortable car, but it is like an appliance, almost totally without character, and I don't care for the zig-zag shifter and thin, lightweight materials used inside and for the doors.

SW17LS

How long do you think you're likely to own your next car? If you're talking about 10 years I would say the ES would be hard to beat. Otherwise I'm sure the Continental would be fine. My main concern there would be the longevity of infotainment systems, etc.

The Continental really doesn't have any "character" either...

mmarshall

In general, I keep a car about five years or so....that's a reasonably good place on the average depreciation-curve. My current Verano, though, has been so reliable (and it also gives you a lot for what it cost) that I'm not in any real hurry to replace it.

Despite my long history of being an auto-enthusiast and reviewer, though, I haven't owned a big full-size (or even mid-size) luxury car since the used ones I owned in college....decades ago. Perhaps it's time. I can afford one if I really want one.

I have to disagree on the Continental not having class or character. We haven't seen anything like this from Ford for decades, particularly with the interior. IMO, it's probably the (current) sedan equivalent of the Cadillac Escalade's bling (yes, more so than the CT6 itself). It's not perfect, though, and does need some further refining in a few areas.

The Genesis/G80 3.8L would be an excellent choice, too, since the 5.0L doesn't come in AWD, and, for me, RWD, even with traction-aids, doesn't cut it in the winter.