MT Large Luxury SUV test: LX570, Escalade, GL450, Range Rover, QX80, Navi
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I agree as a status symbol. Doesn't mean they aren't overrated. For the price and high level of unreliability, I think of it as the ultimate poseur vehicle. I'd have no reservations taking an LX or a G-wagen out into the wilderness because i wouldn't worry about the car not getting me back home. Anyone can pop a huge engine into an SUV and make it go fast. The only RR that have the respect deserved of RR are the stripped version sold overseas. Obviously all IMO.
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I agree as a status symbol. Doesn't mean they aren't overrated. For the price and high level of unreliability, I think of it as the ultimate poseur vehicle. I'd have no reservations taking an LX or a G-wagen out into the wilderness because i wouldn't worry about the car not getting me back home. Anyone can pop a huge engine into an SUV and make it go fast. The only RR that have the respect deserved of RR are the stripped version sold overseas. Obviously all IMO.
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Haha, because those rich folks really take their luxury SUVs off road. I would call the LX overrated by a LOT. The rear hatch sucks, third row sucks, its live axle is not smoother than an IRS......I would even argue that its 5.7 sucks as it has the worst in class performance and as well as the worst in class towing capacity......oh and its EPA ratings are worst in class as well. It also has the smallest fuel tank....the LX is over rated..
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Haha, because those rich folks really take their luxury SUVs off road. I would call the LX overrated by a LOT. The rear hatch sucks, third row sucks, its live axle is not smoother than an IRS......I would even argue that its 5.7 sucks as it has the worst in class performance and as well as the worst in class towing capacity......oh and its EPA ratings are worst in class as well. It also has the smallest fuel tank....the LX is over rated..
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The LX has the advantage of never breaking, but the RR does have better off road credentials in approach and departure angles..
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That's just a few opinions that placed the LX ahead of the RR. I have driven both and I think the RR is the better more luxurious vehicle. Its also more prestigious and the facts also state that its better specs.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
The LX has the advantage of never breaking, but the RR does have better off road credentials in approach and departure angles..
That, unfortunately, is where the long-wheelbase Cadillac Escalade ESV and Lincoln Navigator L (which are not mentioned in the article) really fall short. Their gargantuan length, overhangs, and low angles could quickly get one in trouble in true off-road conditions.
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Haha, because those rich folks really take their luxury SUVs off road. I would call the LX overrated by a LOT. The rear hatch sucks, third row sucks, its live axle is not smoother than an IRS......I would even argue that its 5.7 sucks as it has the worst in class performance and as well as the worst in class towing capacity......oh and its EPA ratings are worst in class as well. It also has the smallest fuel tank....the LX is over rated..
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What gets me angry is that LX and LC fans accept the BS Kool Aid that Lexus throws at them. The facts that get overlooked are that the LX and LC are now in their 8th model year (7th if you don't count the missing 12 model) with absolutely no changes to the 5.7, no new features, the same crappy rear hatch and third row design, dated interior and I could go on.
At least with both the LC/LX450 and LX470, there were powertrain modifications, new interiors, wheel upgrades, feature changes that showed that Lexus actually cared about the customer. (Same applies to the Sequoia)
There is no excuse as to why the LX should not have DI and more power, an 8 speed with slightly better MPG than the god awful MPG it has now, a fix for the rear seats that stay bolted in, a much better rear hatch (Toyota spent the money and put a good rear hatch in the 4Runner) that just screams cost cutting and cheap, how about a new interior with remote touch.
At least with the changes to the 2013 LS460, there was a new inferior, more HP, changes to the body panels etc etc.
Lexus used to preach "continuous" improvement, etc etc...why not anymore?
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Yes I am serious. Its better than nothing and at least Lexus did something to the 4.6 to find some extra HP.
Lexus/Toyota has not done anything to the 3.5 for 11 MY years the Tacoma 4.0 for 11 MY years, the 2.5V6 for 10 MY years and I could go on. Its unacceptable IMO.
The LX is a really dated machine that should of been upgraded a long long time ago.
Lexus/Toyota has not done anything to the 3.5 for 11 MY years the Tacoma 4.0 for 11 MY years, the 2.5V6 for 10 MY years and I could go on. Its unacceptable IMO.
The LX is a really dated machine that should of been upgraded a long long time ago.
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Yes, it looks great but thats not enough for magazine doing comparos to it well.