A 124 Spider should be pretty decent ala Mazda

 

Well, I brought that issue up in another forum (not CL). Fiat (perhaps because of the reliability issue) decided not to even try and design its own American-market roadster, but to use the always-reliable Miata and simply add its own Italian-designed engine.

That's why, in my response to bitkahuna post, I referenced Italian-DESIGNED cars rather than Italian-BRAND cars.

....and I still wish his friend the best of luck with his new car.

 

I know you were all talking about the Alfa, but I've had zero problems at all with my '16 Maserati Ghibli at over 12.5k miles now, so I'm not sure why everyone assumes an Italian designed car means instant reliability issues? Is it an overused stigma now? I don't know, but that stereotype hasn't been the case with my car.

 

I'm glad you got a reliable one, but, in general, Consumer Reports gives the 2017 Ghibli a 1 out of 5 rating for reliability, and 2 out of 5 for owner satisfaction.

 

my friend has had alfas for decades, and, having a phd, has done more than an 'ounce of homework' and so he's not concerned about issues, and it's not his only car. not everyone wants to drive a buick.

 

Forget Buicks LOL......they are not even an issue in this thread. And, with all due respect, I didn't say that he had not, in fact, done any homework......only that if one does, the history of many Italian-designed cars points to a good change of worse-than-average reliability, that's all. Personally, I wish him the best, and hope he gets a good car.

 

WOW a whole 12.5k miles. LMAO. Lets see what your repair/maintenance bill looks like at 60k plus.

 

My response was to show that not all Italian designed cars are lumps of junk from day 1. 12.5k isn't a ton, but it's more than some seem to suggest these cars can go without some sort of major issue.

As for the 60k+ repair/maintenance, we shall see but you can say the same thing about most of the German makes as well.

 

Wow stay classy no need to respond like that.

 

 

Strikes me as an over-priced, over-complicated car that may not be reliable down the road.

I will give it 10/10 in the exterior styling department.

Is the push button on the steering wheel? If so, why would one place that on the steering wheel?

The center console and gauges look terrible IMO.

 

Alfa is using the shared DNA with Ferrari thing, who also includes the start/stop button on the wheel.

 

It's a car I'd love to lease. Anyone know the residuals?

 

With a reasonable amount of equipment, list is $78,000. Lease is $1033/mo with $7800 down.

 

One of the dads at my daughter's school has a red one. It's quite stunning and sounds wonderful. He's had his probably 6 months or so. Next time I have the opportunity I'll check in with him to see how it's going. He also recently added a Stelvio to his collection for his wife to drive.