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Western European countries have had high gasoline prices for decades and it hasn't seemed to have ruined them. The Germans,Austrians, Swiss, and French have a higher quality of life than we do!
If we added a $2.00 federal tax on gasoline we could pay off the national debt without screwing over the elderly and the poor by cutting their Medicare and Medicaid benefits. We could phase in the tax over 7 years to allow motorists time to switch into fuel-efficient vehicles.
Now surely you don't think it's more important for you to be wasting gas in your vintage Lexus than for less advantaged people to have adequate health care, do you? Or are you a tea-bag republican?
If we added a $2.00 federal tax on gasoline we could pay off the national debt without screwing over the elderly and the poor by cutting their Medicare and Medicaid benefits. We could phase in the tax over 7 years to allow motorists time to switch into fuel-efficient vehicles.
Now surely you don't think it's more important for you to be wasting gas in your vintage Lexus than for less advantaged people to have adequate health care, do you? Or are you a tea-bag republican?
If they added $2.00 federal tax on gasoline, many people will cut back their expense not only on oil but other spending as well. For some, they can’t even afford it. Moreover, it will cause a cost impact for businesses across the states. Have you think about the affect with high gas price?? Shipping company/airfare/factory/delivery service & all that consume oil/gasoline will have to raise their price. These cost will directly added to consumer as the business need to remain the cost/profit ratio. If consumer decides to cut back, less service/goods will be needed and resulting in layoff due to lack of work. In conclusion, they government would eventually lose more income tax.
We can’t switch to more efficient car in a month. It will take long time for the American to reach this goal. Why? Did god really create us in one day??
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Quicker? like weekly, more money in your wallet not in their register. More Gas in their tank not in your tank!!! In essence you left half of tank of gas in their possession not carrying it around in your car's tank. More inventory in their possession.
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if you fill your tank halfway, you'll be at the gas station twice as often.
if everyone else is doing the same, gas inventory will be depleted at the same rate as when you filled the tank completely. There's someone filling up every minute of every day. The "inventory" you left in their possession will be consumed by the next guy, who just drove in to fill up for the second time this week.
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We consumed gas like alcoholics in a heart beat. Gas depletion is protracted therefore demand will be deferred means more inventory in their possession if everyone is doing this. The faster the consumption the demand goes up so as the price. let their inventory sit in their tank not in your tank.
In essence were trying to slow down the consumption by not carrying half a tank of gas around town.
In essence were trying to slow down the consumption by not carrying half a tank of gas around town.
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Clever, but I dont think it works that way either, and enlarging the supply and demand diagram doesnt do much ![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
If we are not changing the rate at which we consume gas, then changing the quantity purchased every stop is irrelevant. In the end, we are still buying the same amount--the amount that we need to keep the world moving.
I could be wrong with that so lets add some numbers.
If I drive 15 miles a day and fill up normally without the half tank rule, then I drive 105 miles a week, and after three weeks fill up a whole tank assuming 18mpg in an 18gallon capacity car (315 miles vs 324 miles, close enough). So I buy 18 gallons every three weeks. that is demand.
If I drive 15 miles a day and fill up half a tank every time, then I have 9 gallons in the tank. that will let me drive 162 miles, and at 15 miles a day, that is 11 days, or 1.5 weeks. So I buy 9 gallons every 1.5 weeks, which is 18 gallons every 3 weeks.
But if you are saying that the gas station will has more excess inventory this way, then true. But it depends when they "reorder" their gas. I believe most gas stations get refilled very often, at least once a week. But to add an interesting twist to this, what if the gas station seeing that there is a lot more inventory in the tank decides to postpone a refill. But since demand isnt really changing, the gas station all of a sudden loses a lot of inventory. Then in essence, you are creating a high demand situation once again and nothing changes
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If we are not changing the rate at which we consume gas, then changing the quantity purchased every stop is irrelevant. In the end, we are still buying the same amount--the amount that we need to keep the world moving.
I could be wrong with that so lets add some numbers.
If I drive 15 miles a day and fill up normally without the half tank rule, then I drive 105 miles a week, and after three weeks fill up a whole tank assuming 18mpg in an 18gallon capacity car (315 miles vs 324 miles, close enough). So I buy 18 gallons every three weeks. that is demand.
If I drive 15 miles a day and fill up half a tank every time, then I have 9 gallons in the tank. that will let me drive 162 miles, and at 15 miles a day, that is 11 days, or 1.5 weeks. So I buy 9 gallons every 1.5 weeks, which is 18 gallons every 3 weeks.
But if you are saying that the gas station will has more excess inventory this way, then true. But it depends when they "reorder" their gas. I believe most gas stations get refilled very often, at least once a week. But to add an interesting twist to this, what if the gas station seeing that there is a lot more inventory in the tank decides to postpone a refill. But since demand isnt really changing, the gas station all of a sudden loses a lot of inventory. Then in essence, you are creating a high demand situation once again and nothing changes
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If I drive 15 miles a day and fill up normally without the half tank rule, then I drive 105 miles a week, and after three weeks fill up a whole tank assuming 18mpg in an 18gallon capacity car (315 miles vs 324 miles, close enough). So I buy 18 gallons every three weeks. that is demand.
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Your gas expense could buy a new 40 MPG car with money left over for gas.
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We've got three cars for three drivers in our household, and our total gas bill ends up at around $600-800. It's insane, as the parents each drive about 50 miles each way, and I'm about 50 miles total daily. That CTh is looking really good in our eyes right now, but even with the soaring gas prices (some as high as $4.95 premium in Studio City right now), I don't regret getting my F. I've noticed my driving style has adapted ever since the price went up seemingly last year. That's more than I can say about gas guzzlers who WOT whenever the get the chance.
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And it would require a complete shut down of the country which could never happen. Assuming you mean a 100% boycott. No one going to work. No leaving your house. No trucking resulting in no food.
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Hmm, gas is kind of important.
Without it, we are cavemen. At least until they implement a suitable replacement.
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Its bigger than us. We no longer are the only major consumers of energy. There is growing demand worldwide, especially in key emerging markets.
Not only that but how many times have people paid for 1/2 a tank at one price and then the price raises after. Since prices continue to rise it makes no sense to NOT fill up unless you are certain prices are declining. Technically by filling up you are hedging against price increases.
Lexus makes 5 hybrids now, 3 get 30 MPG or higher so we are the only forum that has those options if you want to stick to the brand. Maybe its time for a Lexus hybrid.
Not only that but how many times have people paid for 1/2 a tank at one price and then the price raises after. Since prices continue to rise it makes no sense to NOT fill up unless you are certain prices are declining. Technically by filling up you are hedging against price increases.
Lexus makes 5 hybrids now, 3 get 30 MPG or higher so we are the only forum that has those options if you want to stick to the brand. Maybe its time for a Lexus hybrid.
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I definitely agree with getting a Lexus hybrid. The RX450h is not a slouch in mileage or power. I fill up maybe half a tank every other week. I was doing the same thing every week on the RX330.
Prices did go up around here, $3.95 for 93 today at Shell. That's a $.15 increase since I filled up two weeks ago.
Prices did go up around here, $3.95 for 93 today at Shell. That's a $.15 increase since I filled up two weeks ago.
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