Like what?

 

Power sun shades in the doors, self closing doors, 16+ way power adjustable seats - just to name a few based on the 15 minutes I spent in the car..

 

Thanks. I will have to look for myself to see what I can find

 

I mentioned that in the review. Headroom in back, for tall persons my size (6' 2", with a cap) was a little tight because of the low roofline, and entry/exit to and from the rear seat required bending your head way down (as it does with many of today's sedans). But headroom up front was no problem.

The reason that happens is the obsession among manufacturers and stylists today with trying to make sedans look like coupes. Sedans are supposed to be all about carrying people in the back seat......coupes usually aren't.

One other thing, of course, that cuts into interior room is the way the gaudy, football-field-sized central NAV/video screen extends way down into and robs what would otherwise be elbow and knee room around the console.

 

I drove a P85 and it is a very nice product

As has been mentioned, they are somewhat behind on the complete lux package

No full led exterior lighting
I do not believe they have ventilated front seats
The motorized door handles are an excess complication
There were no interior grab handles at the roof liner (Musk didn't like the look)

 

I rarely ever see the ones in my cars ever get used. I think it states in my manual that they should not be used while entering or exiting the car.

 

That's fine (and I'm glad you like it), but what does that have to do with my earlier comment on Tesla and non-Tesla charge-outlets? (that's what you were replying to) I don't follow you.

 

I simply quoted you to possibly start a discussion among about the two vehicles I mentioned, since we are apparently the same person

 

Your pricing is incorrect. The 70D starts at $75,000 + $1,200 in destination/handling charges, and the P85D starts at $105,000 + $1,200.

 

Does the huge touchscreen panel get really dim at night to preserve night vision? Driving on a dark highway without any street lighting, I had to turn down the instrument panel and button lighting on my ES so I could see the outside better. I also had to turn the navigation display off because it was too bright even at the lowest setting.

A big LCD like on the Model S would still emit a lot of light at its dimmest setting but you can't turn it off because you'd lose access to all controls. I wonder if there's a Saab-like night mode with dim red lighting on the Model S.

 

OK....good catch. I took my figures right off the web-site that I included, but the fine print said that was after all of the incentives and tax credits....underneath were the actual list prices, before the credits, that you note.

I'll correct that.

 

We are about 10,000 miles into our ownership experience, and our Model S does indeed make my Aston Martin look bad. I would say the Aston has the Tesla beat on interior build quality /material (and exhaust note!), but thats it.

 

The Model S screen is unnecessarily huge (yes it is dimmable), but the screen controls combined with the steering wheel controls are simple and intuitive. Head room in the back is limited if youre over 5'9" but the cabin overall is spacious. Also, the car rides like rocket in stealth mode (that never needs gas). Operating cost for us has been less than $20 bucks per week.

 

One problem I see is overcrowding at charging stations. As the Tesla gets more and more popular how do they plan on addressing the issue of long wait times?

 

My mother has a P85D and its fun to drive. The initial acceleration is crazy and unlike any other car; only downside is it tapers off at higher speeds noticeably. I like the car as a whole but man the interior design doesn't gel with me AT ALL. It looks cheap to me and certain areas would be wholly unacceptable in other $100k cars. You can tell where the $$$ went in the car development and that's OK because the car as a whole is something to be respected (to say the least).

Right there with you my friend.