MM Condensed Static-Review: Tesla Model S
07-06-15, 06:33 AM
#31
Lexus Champion
Still too much range anxiety for me, but I'm sure as the tech improves and I adapt it wouldn't be so bad.
07-06-15, 03:52 PM
#32
Lexus Champion
I work on my own cars so I don't worry about it but I know a lot of people who dread taking their cars in for service.
07-06-15, 06:31 PM
#33
Lexus Fanatic
The other solution is faster charging. Tesla also has battery swap technology. IMHO a recharge has to happen in less than 10 minutes for this to really get mainstream.
07-06-15, 06:54 PM
#34
Build more charging stations. More cars they sell the more they can afford to do so. Also lineups at gas stations are not unusual at least in my part of the world. Sure you don't have to wait 20 minutes but it can still be a hassle. And with Tesla you don't have to wait (or leave the car) for things like oil changes and the like.
I work on my own cars so I don't worry about it but I know a lot of people who dread taking their cars in for service.
I work on my own cars so I don't worry about it but I know a lot of people who dread taking their cars in for service.
of course, more cars they sell, more stations they need.... it was much easier to get a spot year ago than now.
07-06-15, 07:44 PM
#35
Lexus Fanatic
07-06-15, 07:46 PM
#36
Lexus Fanatic
07-06-15, 07:49 PM
#37
Lexus Champion
07-08-15, 10:47 AM
#38
mmarshall, did your showroom cars have the next gen front seats? There's an option to order the original seats (N/C) that's pictured in your photos or the next gen which have more bolstering and look more appealing with a bit more design (stitching here and there) than the plain 1st gen seats. They're an extra cost.
I took a P85 out last Fall and came away impressed by the drive but as others have mentioned here, there are a few niggles such as the low rear seat bench, tight rear headroom, and large interior panel gaps (mostly the doors). I wasn't impressed with the leather either (I found Lexus ones nicer to the touch) even though they're listed as "Nappa Leather".
But everything else from the moonroof that automatically adjusts the tint to the controls on the steering wheel and large touch screen. Everything works well and smoothly. There is a bit more noise than I expected from the hatch area when sitting in the back seat that I didn't notice in an A7.
I took a P85 out last Fall and came away impressed by the drive but as others have mentioned here, there are a few niggles such as the low rear seat bench, tight rear headroom, and large interior panel gaps (mostly the doors). I wasn't impressed with the leather either (I found Lexus ones nicer to the touch) even though they're listed as "Nappa Leather".
But everything else from the moonroof that automatically adjusts the tint to the controls on the steering wheel and large touch screen. Everything works well and smoothly. There is a bit more noise than I expected from the hatch area when sitting in the back seat that I didn't notice in an A7.
07-08-15, 11:07 AM
#39
mmarshall, did your showroom cars have the next gen front seats? There's an option to order the original seats (N/C) that's pictured in your photos or the next gen which have more bolstering and look more appealing with a bit more design (stitching here and there) than the plain 1st gen seats. They're an extra cost.
I took a P85 out last Fall and came away impressed by the drive but as others have mentioned here, there are a few niggles such as the low rear seat bench, tight rear headroom, and large interior panel gaps (mostly the doors). I wasn't impressed with the leather either (I found Lexus ones nicer to the touch) even though they're listed as "Nappa Leather".
But everything else from the moonroof that automatically adjusts the tint to the controls on the steering wheel and large touch screen. Everything works well and smoothly. There is a bit more noise than I expected from the hatch area when sitting in the back seat that I didn't notice in an A7.
I took a P85 out last Fall and came away impressed by the drive but as others have mentioned here, there are a few niggles such as the low rear seat bench, tight rear headroom, and large interior panel gaps (mostly the doors). I wasn't impressed with the leather either (I found Lexus ones nicer to the touch) even though they're listed as "Nappa Leather".
But everything else from the moonroof that automatically adjusts the tint to the controls on the steering wheel and large touch screen. Everything works well and smoothly. There is a bit more noise than I expected from the hatch area when sitting in the back seat that I didn't notice in an A7.
The Tesla Moonroof doesn't automatically adjust the tint... are you thinking of the Mercedes Magic Sky roof? Which even then.. isn't an automatically adjusting system.
07-08-15, 11:45 AM
#40
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
mmarshall, did your showroom cars have the next gen front seats? There's an option to order the original seats (N/C) that's pictured in your photos or the next gen which have more bolstering and look more appealing with a bit more design (stitching here and there) than the plain 1st gen seats. They're an extra cost.
I took a P85 out last Fall and came away impressed by the drive but as others have mentioned here, there are a few niggles such as the low rear seat bench, tight rear headroom, and large interior panel gaps (mostly the doors). I wasn't impressed with the leather either (I found Lexus ones nicer to the touch) even though they're listed as "Nappa Leather".
But everything else from the moonroof that automatically adjusts the tint to the controls on the steering wheel and large touch screen. Everything works well and smoothly. There is a bit more noise than I expected from the hatch area when sitting in the back seat that I didn't notice in an A7.
I took a P85 out last Fall and came away impressed by the drive but as others have mentioned here, there are a few niggles such as the low rear seat bench, tight rear headroom, and large interior panel gaps (mostly the doors). I wasn't impressed with the leather either (I found Lexus ones nicer to the touch) even though they're listed as "Nappa Leather".
But everything else from the moonroof that automatically adjusts the tint to the controls on the steering wheel and large touch screen. Everything works well and smoothly. There is a bit more noise than I expected from the hatch area when sitting in the back seat that I didn't notice in an A7.
The one that was in the showroom had no sticker or list of equipment on it, so I don't know if they were optional/next-gen seats or not. To me, though, the leather on them felt as smooth and slick as the Connally stuff in the older Jaguars...and that was nice stuff. I know this was not the best or most complete review I ever did (minus even a test-drive). But that's why I specifically labeled it a condensed and not full review. You guys have been quite helpful adding to it.
07-08-15, 11:50 AM
#41
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
It looked and felt much like the seats in the showroom Model S I looked at. Lexus really came up with an excellent product in that NuLuxe.
07-09-15, 10:06 PM
#42
Seats and leather aren't quite up to the Semi Aniline grades that you'll find in a lot of the luxury cars at this price point, even with the new Next Gen Seats.
The Tesla Moonroof doesn't automatically adjust the tint... are you thinking of the Mercedes Magic Sky roof? Which even then.. isn't an automatically adjusting system.
The Tesla Moonroof doesn't automatically adjust the tint... are you thinking of the Mercedes Magic Sky roof? Which even then.. isn't an automatically adjusting system.
Thanks for the input, nextourer. The one that was in the showroom had no sticker or list of equipment on it, so I don't know if they were optional/next-gen seats or not. To me, though, the leather on them felt as smooth and slick as the Connally stuff in the older Jaguars...and that was nice stuff.
I know this was not the best or most complete review I ever did (minus even a test-drive). But that's why I specifically labeled it a condensed and not full review. You guys have been quite helpful adding to it.
The one that was in the showroom had no sticker or list of equipment on it, so I don't know if they were optional/next-gen seats or not. To me, though, the leather on them felt as smooth and slick as the Connally stuff in the older Jaguars...and that was nice stuff. I know this was not the best or most complete review I ever did (minus even a test-drive). But that's why I specifically labeled it a condensed and not full review. You guys have been quite helpful adding to it.
I haven't sat in an XJ for a while now. I have sat in an X-Type and while it probably isn't the same grade as the XJ, I do remember the leather being quite nice for the entry-level luxury class.
I really do have to sit in the NuLuxe again. I just remember it being rubber and unpleasant but you guys have been pretty non-chalant about it, praising it, even.
07-10-15, 06:44 AM
#43
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Nextourer
You're welcome! I do enjoy your reviews (I write some myself but they're not as comprehensive as yours).
I haven't sat in an XJ for a while now. I have sat in an X-Type and while it probably isn't the same grade as the XJ, I do remember the leather being quite nice for the entry-level luxury class.
The X Type's standard AWD and interior weren't bad, but, as a whole, it wasn't very impressive by Jaguar standards, being, in effect, a reworked Ford Mondeo. Did you test-drive an X-type? They weren't very well built, and tended to have squeaks and rattles.
I really do have to sit in the NuLuxe again. I just remember it being rubber and unpleasant but you guys have been pretty non-chalant about it, praising it, even.
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-10-15 at 06:48 AM.
07-10-15, 07:16 AM
#44
Lexus Fanatic
I too think the NuLuxe is quite good.
07-10-15, 07:42 AM
#45
Lexus Champion
