2017 Mercedes E Class
#422
Saw my first one on the road today and wasn't impressed at all. It looked exactly like the C and S class, which has been seen for years already. Zero excitement for a new model. Maybe one has to be a Mercedes enthusiast to really know the difference in details. But I'd say that is risky marketing to only rely on Mercedes enthusiasts to buy your cars. So basically for the bulk of the Mercedes sedan line-up, they only offer three cars: The CLA and CLS clan and the C, E, and S class. Three cars is not enough diversity compared to the other brands.
#423
^ Not enough choices for sedans, they offer 5 different cars with 4 doors and a trunk. Really? Audi offers 5 sedans counting the A7, Cadillac offers 3 sedans, Lexus offers 3 sedans, BMW, if you count the 4 and 6 series gran coupe as a sedan does offer 5 different cars with 4 doors and a traditional trunk.
I will agree that the C, E and S all look way too similar. Especially considering how much in size the C-class has crept up in size. Its not like the 80's where a 190e looked like the dinghy for the 560SEL, As for excitement, this car is designed to be boring and blend in, that's what its owners love. If you want something flashy, go buy an Audi S6/S7, a GS350 with its gaping mawl, or a CLS Benz.
I will agree that the C, E and S all look way too similar. Especially considering how much in size the C-class has crept up in size. Its not like the 80's where a 190e looked like the dinghy for the 560SEL, As for excitement, this car is designed to be boring and blend in, that's what its owners love. If you want something flashy, go buy an Audi S6/S7, a GS350 with its gaping mawl, or a CLS Benz.
#424
When you get into that sort of class "value" becomes a relative term. Lets put it this way...I'd love to have an S Class, I have no interest in an E Class after having sat in it.
The S Class is more of everything, way more prestige and panache, much better interior, much better room, better ride, better performance. Is all of that worth $50k? To somebody willing to buy a $100-120k car probably.
The S Class is more of everything, way more prestige and panache, much better interior, much better room, better ride, better performance. Is all of that worth $50k? To somebody willing to buy a $100-120k car probably.
#425
When you get into that sort of class "value" becomes a relative term. Lets put it this way...I'd love to have an S Class, I have no interest in an E Class after having sat in it.
The S Class is more of everything, way more prestige and panache, much better interior, much better room, better ride, better performance. Is all of that worth $50k? To somebody willing to buy a $100-120k car probably.
The S Class is more of everything, way more prestige and panache, much better interior, much better room, better ride, better performance. Is all of that worth $50k? To somebody willing to buy a $100-120k car probably.
Until the refreshed S comes out next year, there are areas that the E has it beat such as lot of the active safety features. Granted, I agree with you that people will be willing to pay the 50K for the extra presence of the S.
#426
Saw my first one on the road today and wasn't impressed at all. It looked exactly like the C and S class, which has been seen for years already. Zero excitement for a new model. Maybe one has to be a Mercedes enthusiast to really know the difference in details. But I'd say that is risky marketing to only rely on Mercedes enthusiasts to buy your cars. So basically for the bulk of the Mercedes sedan line-up, they only offer three cars: The CLA and CLS clan and the C, E, and S class. Three cars is not enough diversity compared to the other brands.
#427
When you get into that sort of class "value" becomes a relative term. Lets put it this way...I'd love to have an S Class, I have no interest in an E Class after having sat in it.
The S Class is more of everything, way more prestige and panache, much better interior, much better room, better ride, better performance. Is all of that worth $50k? To somebody willing to buy a $100-120k car probably.
The S Class is more of everything, way more prestige and panache, much better interior, much better room, better ride, better performance. Is all of that worth $50k? To somebody willing to buy a $100-120k car probably.
I love the S class and was thinking getting a S63 next, but the recent C and E class looking so similar to S really
put me off...... Making them look the same is good for C and E owners, but not S owners. But I guess MB sells more
C and E so it's good for them :/
#429
That's what I thought.
Must look twice to identify it as an E.
However when I do look hard, I find that C is actually more stylish, and the E looks too conservative & old fashioned with perhaps a more prominent mid-line crease on the bonnet, a larger grill to headlight ratio, integrated left center and right front skirt intakes, and the more conservative shape of E's tail light lenses with sharper upper medial corners.
Like the C, the E looks quite small in person, and is certainly very low, with a low and short trunk deck sloping downwards.
The new rear end styling of the Benz coupes are absolutely terrible.
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Must look twice to identify it as an E.
However when I do look hard, I find that C is actually more stylish, and the E looks too conservative & old fashioned with perhaps a more prominent mid-line crease on the bonnet, a larger grill to headlight ratio, integrated left center and right front skirt intakes, and the more conservative shape of E's tail light lenses with sharper upper medial corners.
Like the C, the E looks quite small in person, and is certainly very low, with a low and short trunk deck sloping downwards.
The new rear end styling of the Benz coupes are absolutely terrible.
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Last edited by peteharvey; 07-30-16 at 07:57 PM.
#430
#431
That's what I thought.
Must look twice to identify it as an E.
However when I do look hard, I find that C is actually more stylish, and the E looks too conservative & old fashioned with perhaps a more prominent mid-line crease on the bonnet, a larger grill to headlight ratio, integrated left center and right front skirt intakes, and the more conservative shape of E's tail light lenses with sharper upper medial corners.
Like the C, the E looks quite small in person, and is certainly very low, with a low and short trunk deck sloping downwards.
The new rear end styling of the Benz coupes are absolutely terrible..
Must look twice to identify it as an E.
However when I do look hard, I find that C is actually more stylish, and the E looks too conservative & old fashioned with perhaps a more prominent mid-line crease on the bonnet, a larger grill to headlight ratio, integrated left center and right front skirt intakes, and the more conservative shape of E's tail light lenses with sharper upper medial corners.
Like the C, the E looks quite small in person, and is certainly very low, with a low and short trunk deck sloping downwards.
The new rear end styling of the Benz coupes are absolutely terrible..
I agree I think the E is more stylish and has more attractive details. However, because of the shortened length of the C, it looks truncated. I think that design would look very good in something like the size of a E. The E is really toned down but still attractive in an understated kind of way. However, the plastic flares in the front bumper intake is ugly, just like the new GLC (same designer)
#432
#434
Originally Posted by coolsaber
Yup. The materials in the S class vs the E class are different although the design are for the most part idenical
#435
The secret to the S Class is that it looks similar to, but not almost exactly the same as the C Class.
For an E or S Class to look too similar to the C Class devalues the E & S Class.
Strange, but I think the C looks best.
I like the C's light colored rear underpan diffuser most.
Though E has the neatest, cleanest and most conventional side crease.
S Class's shark fin doesn't look as nice as BMW's nor Lexus' shark fin.
S Class rear diffuser looks old in this company now.
For an E or S Class to look too similar to the C Class devalues the E & S Class.
Strange, but I think the C looks best.
I like the C's light colored rear underpan diffuser most.
Though E has the neatest, cleanest and most conventional side crease.
S Class's shark fin doesn't look as nice as BMW's nor Lexus' shark fin.
S Class rear diffuser looks old in this company now.
Last edited by peteharvey; 07-31-16 at 03:26 PM.