mmarshall

I think spwolf may have a point...this could have political undertones somewhere. Buick, for example, has been a huge success in China, and has no problems both building and selling vehicles there.

Stroock639

same haha. i love that my LS was an all japanese effort made in japan by japanese people with japanese sourced parts. i think i've yet to come across a single made in china on my LS so far.

Hoovey689

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As someone mentioned above, the ES just started some production in the States. As for the RX, the Canadian Cambridge plant which manufactures RX's (2T2 VIN) has received 14 Plant Quality awards which is more than any other automotive manufacturer in the Americas

Dave600hL

I don't think that is the reason. They are planning on building another Toyota factory in China in 2018.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...mexico-reports

bitkahuna

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thanks. i guess it is what it is then... toyota figures labor there's good enough for toyotas but not lexus.

roadbike56

Meanwhile Cadillac is manufacturing cars to be shipped to the US.
You need a scorecard to determine which companies are American, Japanese or Chinese not to mention German, Canadian and so on.

bitkahuna

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china builds almost anything and everything so they certainly could build lexus vehicles to world standards.

Wunko

I was thinking the same thing.

rxonmymind

Your absolutely right on point. They even go so far as to taint babies milk in order to spike the protien count on inspections. This lead to hundreds of babies killed. Of course the plant owner was found hanging not to long afterwards expressing regret in "his" suicide note. Then you had all the dog food laced with antifreeze that killed scores of pets. The list never ends.

They take little pride in the mfg of goods. On the family front though they LOVE kids, and take pride in family. Solid HARD working people just wouldn't trust them to make ANYTHING for me.

bitkahuna

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because japan never has ethical problems or corruption...

not bashing japan, but they're no saint - recent sampling:

Toyo Tire & Rubber Co. said an internal probe found one unit manipulated quality testing data for rubber products supplied to 18 customers over a decade.

Asahi Kasei Corp. then said one of its units had falsified data for foundation piles in condominiums, after one building had sagged sideways.

Matsumotokiyoshi Holdings Co., a Japanese drugstore chain, said it found likely accounting irregularities and is investigating the president of one unit it suspects inflated inventories to hide past losses.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/201.../#.Vj2rwaIkUpY

RXSF

haha, so where do you buy anything if you dont trust them to make anything for you?

Aron9000

Hopefully I'm not talking sideways here, but society in Japan is a lot harder on people who cheat or fail miserably. The level of personal shame and shame brought upon their family is enough for most people in that country to not cheat the system, as you are ostracized by society if you are caught. A CEO like Carly Fiorina would never be allowed into a corporate leadership position again(or god forbid into a serious presidential candidate) after she left HP in such a mess if this were Japan.



As for Lexus not opening a factory in China, I'd say the supplier chain quality is one valid reason. Toyota has a good bit of control over quality in their assembly plant, but I'd imagine it is a daily battle with their suppliers to get them up to their quality standards in a place like China.

I'm speaking from knowing somebody who has worked in the automotive plastics industry her whole career in the US, its appalling how out of control some suppliers are in terms of not being able to meet production schedules due to the number of reject parts they are making. Its like everything has to be overnight trucked(or air shipped) just so the next supplier or the final assembly plant won't run out of parts in 8 hours.

Prinny

Move off the grid and make everything by hand

bitkahuna

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except carly didn't fail and hp still exists. her actions were controversial, but hp was in a WORLD of hurt when she took the job.

also, it's very hypothetical as i doubt there's hardly any female ceo's in japan.

rxonmymind

3 D printing baby!
(Daaaaammit. The machine is made in China!)