Lexus LC News
#1981
Right now words won't do it justice by any means, as all we have are pictures and a few real life experiences to form our own subjective opinions. It will be a vehicle one has to drive and experience to understand just how special this coupe is, like the LFA was.
The LC should not be perceived as a threat to the RC, but rather embraced. Lexus promotes the Kaizen Philosophy which means "continuous improvement". The lessons learned from design and engineering practices are passed further down the Lexus stable. The RC which is a really nice little coupe, is not without flaw. The biggest complaints you hear are "lack of power" "too much weight" "materials could be better" "Frankenstein chassis". As a first generation model, its a solid foundation on which to grow and improve future RC models with the lessons of today.
Also let's hope that future includes the gorgeous RC convertible (LF-C2)
#1982
yes, I have sat in an RCF and I saw the LC at the same auto show this year, so my impressions of the 2 vehicles were based on observations made minutes from each other.
please do not put words in my mouth, the GSF is a far nicer vehicle than the RCF
please do not put words in my mouth, the GSF is a far nicer vehicle than the RCF
#1983
The LC was bench-marked against the 6-Series (volume leader), the opulent S-Class Coupe, and the exquisite Maserati Gran Turismo. Apart from more luxurious and exotic materials in the LC, it should prove to be the most balanced (luxury and sport aspects), engaging, and rewarding [grand touring] coupe Lexus has ever produced.
Right now words won't do it justice by any means, as all we have are pictures and a few real life experiences to form our own subjective opinions. It will be a vehicle one has to drive and experience to understand just how special this coupe is, like the LFA was.
The LC should not be perceived as a threat to the RC, but rather embraced. Lexus promotes the Kaizen Philosophy which means "continuous improvement". The lessons learned from design and engineering practices are passed further down the Lexus stable. The RC which is a really nice little coupe, is not without flaw. The biggest complaints you hear are "lack of power" "too much weight" "materials could be better" "Frankenstein chassis". As a first generation model, its a solid foundation on which to grow and improve future RC models with the lessons of today.
Also let's hope that future includes the gorgeous RC convertible (LF-C2)
Right now words won't do it justice by any means, as all we have are pictures and a few real life experiences to form our own subjective opinions. It will be a vehicle one has to drive and experience to understand just how special this coupe is, like the LFA was.
The LC should not be perceived as a threat to the RC, but rather embraced. Lexus promotes the Kaizen Philosophy which means "continuous improvement". The lessons learned from design and engineering practices are passed further down the Lexus stable. The RC which is a really nice little coupe, is not without flaw. The biggest complaints you hear are "lack of power" "too much weight" "materials could be better" "Frankenstein chassis". As a first generation model, its a solid foundation on which to grow and improve future RC models with the lessons of today.
Also let's hope that future includes the gorgeous RC convertible (LF-C2)
The LFA has its own fabulous engine and unique int/ext design that no other Lexus lineup share.
That's why it demands hypercar prices. Even with its unique traits and being discontinued, there are still brand new ones sitting in dealerships unsold. I wouldn't categorize the LC as anything "special". If I am in the position to upgrade from my RCF, the LC will not be in my circle of options. It would be like paying 50-70 grand more just to upgrade "better interior" with same engine and very similar exterior. Why not just trade in and jump to the German or Italian brand and also get much more power with that price.
You mentioned complaints are lack of power and too much weight for RCF, you don't think the LC buyers will complain about that too since its USING the RCF's engine? Especially the msrp will be at least 40-50k more.
I'm very happy with my RCF and it performance, given the price I paid new. I'm also not beating on the LC as I see there are a lot of fan boys out there. I just can't justify the massive hike in prices when the engine hardware is copied from 10 yrs ago. A logically buyer will simply not pay a six figure price for it when they can get something superior (maybe for a little more). Case in point the Lexus GSF, look how well it's selling after using the RCF's engine and no new innovation.
Last edited by ssmoked; 04-09-16 at 07:54 PM.
#1984
That's funny. If you actually did sat and test drove in the GSF and RCF you would have knowticed the seats and dash displays are IDENTICAL and the instruments and dashes are made from same material with just different layout. Sorry, I call bs
#1985
The GSF was not roped off at the show in Chicago.
I had an 06 IS350 and thought the interior was nicer than than the current generation IS.
As an example the hard plastic used for the heating controls for the new IS looks/feels K Mart to me.
Back to the LC, the interior is pure executive treatment for the driver and front passenger. The rear passengers got robbed on space though.
I had an 06 IS350 and thought the interior was nicer than than the current generation IS.
As an example the hard plastic used for the heating controls for the new IS looks/feels K Mart to me.
Back to the LC, the interior is pure executive treatment for the driver and front passenger. The rear passengers got robbed on space though.
#1986
Those buyers are all about bragging to their friends with hp, magazine 0-60, 1/4 mile times during cars and coffee. No one ever brag how soft their leather is or how quiet their cabin is during a car meet. Frankly speaking, the German and Italian competition has far better interior quality and technology anyways.
The LFA has its own fabulous engine and unique int/ext design that no other Lexus lineup share. That's why it demands hypercar prices. Even with its unique traits and being discontinued, there are still brand new ones sitting in dealerships unsold. I wouldn't categorize the LC as anything "special". If I am in the position to upgrade from my RCF, the LC will not be in my circle of options. It would be like paying 50-70 grand more just to upgrade "better interior" with same engine and very similar exterior. Why not just trade in and jump to the German or Italian brand and also get much more power with that price.
Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. What works for one, doesn’t work for the other, there is no perfect vehicle .
I'm very happy with my RCF and it performance, given the price I paid new. I'm also not beating on the LC as I see there are a lot of fan boys out there. I just can't justify the massive hike in prices when the engine hardware is copied from 10 yrs ago. A logically buyer will simply not pay a six figure price for it when they can get something superior (maybe for a little more). Case in point the Lexus GSF, look how well it's selling after using the RCF's engine and no new innovation.
#1987
No talk of the LC500h? That's a game changer for the luxury segment, no other manufacturer has a cheapish, efficient sports coupe that looks like a concept car. The i8 is priced a lot higher. Porsche could make a ton of money by offering a hybrid 911 if they ever choose to.
#1988
No talk of the LC500h? That's a game changer for the luxury segment, no other manufacturer has a cheapish, efficient sports coupe that looks like a concept car. The i8 is priced a lot higher. Porsche could make a ton of money by offering a hybrid 911 if they ever choose to.
LC500h has double the cylinder count of the i8
#1989
You're right it does deserve a mention. It shows Lexus's dedication towards making hybrids more engaging with this trick multi-stage transmission. The output is marginally better at 354hp vs 338hp though personally I think they missed a huge opportunity to add a larger capacity battery pack and more power electric motors in the realm of 400hp. This coupe looks poised break the GS450h's 29/34/31 mpg ratings. The increased all electric speed and range is also
LC500h has double the cylinder count of the i8
LC500h has double the cylinder count of the i8
Problem with large capacity battery back is that after you do a lap or two at max, you are left with half of it being unused anymore since your brakes cant recover energy fast enough. So you are left hauling dead weight for no good reason at all... not to mention that you are paying for it anyway.
It only makes sense when Europeans are tying to lower car taxes by using low range plugin. Goverments are slowly closing this loophole and limiting it based on EV miles and cost of the vehicle.
#1990
I still cant believe a smart guy like you is still stuck on HP when we know how much better LC500h performance is compared to GS450h. It is 1s faster 0-60! That's basically the difference between GS350 and GS-F! Yes, I am saying it tongue-in-cheek!
Problem with large capacity battery back is that after you do a lap or two at max, you are left with half of it being unused anymore since your brakes cant recover energy fast enough. So you are left hauling dead weight for no good reason at all... not to mention that you are paying for it anyway.
It only makes sense when Europeans are tying to lower car taxes by using low range plugin. Goverments are slowly closing this loophole and limiting it based on EV miles and cost of the vehicle.
Problem with large capacity battery back is that after you do a lap or two at max, you are left with half of it being unused anymore since your brakes cant recover energy fast enough. So you are left hauling dead weight for no good reason at all... not to mention that you are paying for it anyway.
It only makes sense when Europeans are tying to lower car taxes by using low range plugin. Goverments are slowly closing this loophole and limiting it based on EV miles and cost of the vehicle.
#1991
Problem with large capacity battery back is that after you do a lap or two at max, you are left with half of it being unused anymore since your brakes cant recover energy fast enough. So you are left hauling dead weight for no good reason at all... not to mention that you are paying for it anyway.
It only makes sense when Europeans are tying to lower car taxes by using low range plugin. Goverments are slowly closing this loophole and limiting it based on EV miles and cost of the vehicle.
It only makes sense when Europeans are tying to lower car taxes by using low range plugin. Goverments are slowly closing this loophole and limiting it based on EV miles and cost of the vehicle.
#1992
When said technology doesn't translate into horsepower it won't translate into buzzworthiness it won't translate into sales = forgotten.
#1993
No talk of the LC500h? That's a game changer for the luxury segment, no other manufacturer has a cheapish, efficient sports coupe that looks like a concept car. The i8 is priced a lot higher. Porsche could make a ton of money by offering a hybrid 911 if they ever choose to.
#1994
Being defensive about the car you own is natural when there is something that is better and more expensive coming out.
#1995
So when you going to trade in the 06 and get on my level?