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Old 04-03-16, 04:45 PM
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It didn't help that the Corolla was also in limited allocation so it wasn't being discounted either. All in all he is happy.
Hard to imagine Corollas being in "limited" allocation..unless there was or is some actual problem at the factory. After all, this is one of the world's best-selling cars.
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Hard to imagine Corollas being in "limited" allocation..unless there was or is some actual problem at the factory. After all, this is one of the world's best-selling cars.
I believe it is the world's best selling car.
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Hard to imagine Corollas being in "limited" allocation..unless there was or is some actual problem at the factory. After all, this is one of the world's best-selling cars.
Canadian market works differently than US market. Toyota knows how to regulate the supply, seasonally and regionally, to maintain a steady stream of inventory for the most popular configuration. It is not unusual for dealers in Ontario to be on limited allocation when Toyota is busy filling the lots with "Quebec specials" or vice versa. During those times, the inventory is there , but no dealer will steeply discount it as they know it will be a while for the next lot.

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Why is every car Toyota makes now looks SO aggressive? Why does a 100hp car like this Corolla need to look that menacing? We all know it puts you right to sleep when you get to drive one.
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I believe it is the world's best selling car.
If you take accumulated-numbers throughout history (the Corolla itself goes back to 1966), then yes (depending onto source of the figures), it arguably shares that title with the VW Beetle, which goes back to **** Germany in the 1930s. But it is not necessarily the world's best-selling car today on a simple annual-numbers basis, though I agree it still ranks way up there.
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Why is every car Toyota makes now looks SO aggressive? Why does a 100hp car like this Corolla need to look that menacing? We all know it puts you right to sleep when you get to drive one.
It's simply called change for change's sake. Those who stick to the time-honored tradition of not fixing what ain't broke are accused of being "dated", uncool", unhip", "not with it", or "living in the past". So, as a result, we get vehicles that look like spaceships and are often difficult for large and tall people to get in and out of.
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What about Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, Land Rover.... they all changed but not for the worse. Their styling is still very classic in most cases. This is just atrocious.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
If you take accumulated-numbers throughout history (the Corolla itself goes back to 1966), then yes (depending onto source of the figures), it arguably shares that title with the VW Beetle, which goes back to **** Germany in the 1930s. But it is not necessarily the world's best-selling car today on a simple annual-numbers basis, though I agree it still ranks way up there.
The Corolla was the best selling car in 2015. It was also the best selling car in the world for 2014. It also sold 1.3M cars in 2015, no other car has ever done that.
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Originally Posted by My0gr81
Canadian market works differently than US market. Toyota knows how to regulate the supply, seasonally and regionally, to maintain a steady stream of inventory for the most popular configuration. It is not unusual for dealers in Ontario to be on limited allocation when Toyota is busy filling the lots with "Quebec specials" or vice versa. During those times, the inventory is there , but no dealer will steeply discount it as they know it will be a while for the next lot.
Seriously, I highly doubt Toyota Canada would hold back or regulate supply of any vehicle in Ontario. Ontario sells the most cars and Toyota will not take a chance to a a loss of customers. Corollas come out of Cambridge ON, so they don't need to go far.

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$4000 is a lot of money when you're talking about a $19,000 car. That's paying over 20% more.
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Originally Posted by 97-SC300
What about Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, Land Rover.... they all changed but not for the worse. Their styling is still very classic in most cases. This is just atrocious.
Porsche and Audi generally do a good job, style-wise, of not fixing what ain't broke. Since you bring up Land Rover, though, I think the Land Rover Evoq looks ridiculous with its headroom-squashing, visibility-squashing, peep-hole rear windows.



Don't want to get too far off-topic, though, which is the new Corolla.

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I agree, not all of their designs are great which is why I was careful in saying "most" of their designs. That car you posted is for sure ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Seriously, I highly doubt Toyota Canada would hold back or regulate supply of any vehicle in Ontario. Ontario sells the most cars and Toyota will not take a chance to lost customers. Corollas come out of Cambridge ON, so they need to go far.
So what's your point? it doesn't matter where it's made. Production is allocated to their regional distributors and there is only so many cars the factory can produce at one time. I know enough people in the supply chain, and when one's statement about a certain condition is corroborated by another then it's got to have something behind it.

With respect to regulating supply, they do that as a matter of course and for good business reasons. It's what allows them to maintain their Just In Time supply management system, that they pioneered.

BTW the Cambridge plant is owned by TMMC and distribution is a totally separate division within Toyota Canada.
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
$4000 is a lot of money when you're talking about a $19,000 car. That's paying over 20% more.
This was to replace his winter beater, so yes, $4000 was a big deal. He got 16" alloy wheels, A/C, keyless entry and other things that when added to the Corolla just made it go over the top.
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Originally Posted by My0gr81
This was to replace his winter beater, so yes, $4000 was a big deal. He got 16" alloy wheels, A/C, keyless entry and other things that when added to the Corolla just made it go over the top.
What was the final price of his Civic?
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