Tesla Model 3
09-28-17, 08:06 PM
#92
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Not sure how a software update can give fm radio... guess the radio hardware is builtin, but fm is on its dying breath anyway with buyers likely to buy a 3.
as for BT streaming, yeah that's needed.
as for BT streaming, yeah that's needed.
09-28-17, 09:05 PM
#93
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09-29-17, 04:51 AM
#96
Lexus Champion
The FM receiver hardware must already be built in. I did some searching and found that many Android smartphones actually have a FM receiver built in but there is no original app provided with the phone to enable FM; you have to find and install an aftermarket FM app.
09-29-17, 05:48 AM
#97
^^ FM receiver hardware has to be built in already. It is AM that, like the Model S and X, this model will not have. That mostly has to do with the interference AM frequencies get in cars with a lot of high frequency electronics. Apparently this is an exacerbated issue in EV's. Or maybe Musk just felt the slightly compromised reception quality should be left out from his cars. FM isn't going anywhere anytime soon unless the FCC bans the frequencies. Personally I've always found discovering weird stations on AM on long trips a lot of fun. They will have to enable the bluetooth features before long. And the omission of an aux in jack is rather annoying.
I only find the battery technology, motor, controller and inverter interesting in this car. The styling is OK but the Model S looks much better. The dashboard design makes me gag. A heads up display would have been EASY to offer as a standard feature or option. But Musk doesn't want to do that, oh no. That would emphasize the driver being encouraged to focus on the act of driving and we can't have that, can we? Because then there might enter the possibility that some driver's might think driving is "fun".
I'm waiting to read or watch any review of the production Model 3 that evaluates its steering feel and response.
Overall this vehicle gives me the impression that you're supposed to sit in it and just get around while paying less attention and focus on the act of driving with an emphasis on the Autopilot system. I find that boring and a bit frustrating because as much as I love great internal combustion engines I actually like electric drivetrains when applied to vehicle designs that encourage driver engagement and, dare I suggest it... fun from the act of driving a car.
The limitations of current battery packs aside, it's a car for a certain kind of buyer/owner. I can see a car like this being the 21st century's new Camry.
But considering how easy it is to make the instant torque of an EV car fun to drive, the Model 3 is to me a rather boring and disappointing exercise. 0-60 in 6.5 seconds with instant torque is very good but the way this design seems to de-emphasize the driver's role turns me off. But then again I am not the target audience for this kind of EV.
I only find the battery technology, motor, controller and inverter interesting in this car. The styling is OK but the Model S looks much better. The dashboard design makes me gag. A heads up display would have been EASY to offer as a standard feature or option. But Musk doesn't want to do that, oh no. That would emphasize the driver being encouraged to focus on the act of driving and we can't have that, can we? Because then there might enter the possibility that some driver's might think driving is "fun".
I'm waiting to read or watch any review of the production Model 3 that evaluates its steering feel and response.
Overall this vehicle gives me the impression that you're supposed to sit in it and just get around while paying less attention and focus on the act of driving with an emphasis on the Autopilot system. I find that boring and a bit frustrating because as much as I love great internal combustion engines I actually like electric drivetrains when applied to vehicle designs that encourage driver engagement and, dare I suggest it... fun from the act of driving a car.
The limitations of current battery packs aside, it's a car for a certain kind of buyer/owner. I can see a car like this being the 21st century's new Camry.
But considering how easy it is to make the instant torque of an EV car fun to drive, the Model 3 is to me a rather boring and disappointing exercise. 0-60 in 6.5 seconds with instant torque is very good but the way this design seems to de-emphasize the driver's role turns me off. But then again I am not the target audience for this kind of EV.
Last edited by KahnBB6; 09-29-17 at 06:02 AM.
09-29-17, 06:14 AM
#98
Lexus Fanatic
Agreed. If you are moving fast, and need to turn the wipers on quickly (or increase the speed of them quickly) because of a sudden rainstorm or if your windshield all of a sudden is covered up by big tires splashing stuff on it, that is NOT the time to be fussing and scrolling through menus. 
Frankly, I think that the one-swipe/touch feature built into the steering-column stalk is one of the best features ever invented for the modern vehicle...it's instantly right there at your fingertip whenever you need it.
Frankly, I think that the one-swipe/touch feature built into the steering-column stalk is one of the best features ever invented for the modern vehicle...it's instantly right there at your fingertip whenever you need it.
Last edited by mmarshall; 09-29-17 at 06:17 AM.
09-29-17, 07:38 AM
#99
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09-29-17, 08:35 AM
#100
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Along those lines it's nice having physical controls especially ones that function silky smooth it connects you with the car. Having nothing to turn, click, move, dial etc. you might as well be using a smartphone. Which I guess is what the 3 is, a snore fest smartphone on wheels.
09-29-17, 08:40 AM
#101
Lexus Champion
I'd be surprised if it didn't have rain sensing wipers. If it does, the screen could default to the wiper/washer screen for quick access for adjustments etc. as soon as they are activated.
09-29-17, 02:40 PM
#102
I would put money on the idea that next year's version of the 3 will have physical controls for many more functions. In fact, I predict there will be litigation against Tesla where drivers say they were in an accident because the controls were so non-intuitive.
I can fly across the country and jump into virtually any rental car and figure out within seconds how to instinctively operate pretty much anything. Not so apparently with the Model 3.
I can fly across the country and jump into virtually any rental car and figure out within seconds how to instinctively operate pretty much anything. Not so apparently with the Model 3.
09-29-17, 03:53 PM
#103
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lol
exactly. i've used the physical controls for my car's wipers only a couple of times in 2.5yrs. 
and i live in rain drenching florida. 
and i live in rain drenching florida.
09-29-17, 03:56 PM
#104
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I'm baffled that Elon has gone with such a spartan interior, what's up with that? How could he make such a massive blunder? Or maybe people won't care? I could NEVER own the car because of the interior it's comically bad.
Along those lines it's nice having physical controls especially ones that function silky smooth it connects you with the car.
Along those lines it's nice having physical controls especially ones that function silky smooth it connects you with the car.
Having nothing to turn, click, move, dial etc. you might as well be using a smartphone. Which I guess is what the 3 is, a snore fest smartphone on wheels.
then "wipers on" or something.
09-29-17, 05:36 PM
#105
Lexus Fanatic
People who use Rain-X claim they rarely have to use wipers. I still don't believe in putting filmy substances on glass, though...it can mess up the wiper-blades and cause streaks when you DO need them.