Tesla Model 3
01-09-18 | 02:41 PM
#122
01-10-18 | 07:30 AM
#125
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I really don't get the appeal of Tesla. I understand it is fast and such and...whatever else. Its cheaply made and the company is poorly ran that requires gimmicks and deposits on future promises to stay afloat.
01-11-18 | 09:23 AM
#126
i didnt know the interior looked just as bad.
Model 3 owners accuse Tesla of bait-and-switch on premium interior materials: https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/11/...mium-interior/
Model 3 owners accuse Tesla of bait-and-switch on premium interior materials: https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/11/...mium-interior/
01-11-18 | 12:28 PM
#130
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Not really. I am a bit surprised they are having such severe problem with ramping up production. Quality problems don't surprise me at all it is incredibly difficult to make something that has thousands of parts and not have any of them be defective in some way.
Honestly only Toyota has mastered this on a consistent basis.
Honestly only Toyota has mastered this on a consistent basis.
01-11-18 | 12:48 PM
#131
Not really. I am a bit surprised they are having such severe problem with ramping up production. Quality problems don't surprise me at all it is incredibly difficult to make something that has thousands of parts and not have any of them be defective in some way.
Honestly only Toyota has mastered this on a consistent basis.
Honestly only Toyota has mastered this on a consistent basis.
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Back to Tesla. Appears they may have a bait and switch problem with some of the Tesla 3 interiors:Model 3 owners accuse Tesla of bait-and-switch on premium interior materials
Reservation-holders are starting to get deliveries of their Model 3s at long last, but there's rising ire among some who say that Tesla is swapping out premium interior materials for lower-quality cloth versions on premium trim packages without notice, explanation or any offer to discount the price.
Threads on both the Tesla Motors Club forum and Tesla Reddit page are filled with complaints from owners who say they've taken deliveries of the Model 3 sedan and paid $5,000 for premium upgrade packages but gotten interiors with cloth headliners, door accents, B-pillars and visors when they expected Alcantara. One owner took to Twitter to post photos of what he described as a "mix and match" interior in his new car.
"Tesla better correct it," user void-ninja said in a TMC thread. "Basic cloth is not acceptable in a $5,000 upgrade package when better materials are being specified."
Tesla's website makes no mention of Alcantara as a premium upgrade option for the Model 3, describing only "Premium heated seating and cabin materials throughout, including open pore wood decor and two rear USBs." But reservation holders said they widely believed the $5,000 PUP package included the premium synthetic material, based on online reviews of the electric car, YouTube videos and other cues, including some of Tesla's own marketing materials and reports from many of the first owners to take delivery.
Said one Reddit user, "if a couple thousand Model 3 owners have Alcantara and now Tesla uses a much less luxurious material surely this is grounds to readjust the PUP price. I get how financially important this car is to them but don't fool me by saying premium touches and ship some textile stuff that a low end GM car has."
It appears Tesla has a new issue to address among its rabid faithful. If you're a PUP reservation holder, you might want to contact your service center.
Threads on both the Tesla Motors Club forum and Tesla Reddit page are filled with complaints from owners who say they've taken deliveries of the Model 3 sedan and paid $5,000 for premium upgrade packages but gotten interiors with cloth headliners, door accents, B-pillars and visors when they expected Alcantara. One owner took to Twitter to post photos of what he described as a "mix and match" interior in his new car.
"Tesla better correct it," user void-ninja said in a TMC thread. "Basic cloth is not acceptable in a $5,000 upgrade package when better materials are being specified."
Tesla's website makes no mention of Alcantara as a premium upgrade option for the Model 3, describing only "Premium heated seating and cabin materials throughout, including open pore wood decor and two rear USBs." But reservation holders said they widely believed the $5,000 PUP package included the premium synthetic material, based on online reviews of the electric car, YouTube videos and other cues, including some of Tesla's own marketing materials and reports from many of the first owners to take delivery.
Said one Reddit user, "if a couple thousand Model 3 owners have Alcantara and now Tesla uses a much less luxurious material surely this is grounds to readjust the PUP price. I get how financially important this car is to them but don't fool me by saying premium touches and ship some textile stuff that a low end GM car has."
It appears Tesla has a new issue to address among its rabid faithful. If you're a PUP reservation holder, you might want to contact your service center.
01-11-18 | 02:15 PM
#132
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True to an extent but how Toyota changed the industry is working closely with OEMs or even partially or fully owning them as subsidiaries. The U.S. auto makers for decades told their suppliers, this is what we need this is how many now make it. If it had quality problems etc. that was the OEMs problem alone.
From what I've read Tesla has the opposite problem they are trying to make too much in house. Part of that may be that OEMs are being heavily pressured not to deal with Tesla.
From what I've read Tesla has the opposite problem they are trying to make too much in house. Part of that may be that OEMs are being heavily pressured not to deal with Tesla.
01-11-18 | 05:50 PM
#133
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Classic Musk. Over promise and then waffle, show boat and under deliver. But that's what you get for buying something sight unseen over the internet. Remember, the guy's an internet entrepeneur. He never actually manufacutured mass production vehicles before this. The fact that all it took was a grand to hold a reservation, well what were people expecting?
It's classic Apple marketing. People line up for something that's going to depreciate when the next one comes out. Only here, you have a problem. You're not making them in China and you don't have massive upscaling to meet demand.
The 3 is a nice looking vehicle and it is really a good performer. But once Musk got involved and micro-managed the mass production process, well that was the end.
It's classic Apple marketing. People line up for something that's going to depreciate when the next one comes out. Only here, you have a problem. You're not making them in China and you don't have massive upscaling to meet demand.
The 3 is a nice looking vehicle and it is really a good performer. But once Musk got involved and micro-managed the mass production process, well that was the end.
01-12-18 | 06:37 AM
#135
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Joined: Dec 2017
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From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Classic Musk. Over promise and then waffle, show boat and under deliver. But that's what you get for buying something sight unseen over the internet. Remember, the guy's an internet entrepeneur. He never actually manufacutured mass production vehicles before this. The fact that all it took was a grand to hold a reservation, well what were people expecting?
It's classic Apple marketing. People line up for something that's going to depreciate when the next one comes out. Only here, you have a problem. You're not making them in China and you don't have massive upscaling to meet demand.
The 3 is a nice looking vehicle and it is really a good performer. But once Musk got involved and micro-managed the mass production process, well that was the end.
It's classic Apple marketing. People line up for something that's going to depreciate when the next one comes out. Only here, you have a problem. You're not making them in China and you don't have massive upscaling to meet demand.
The 3 is a nice looking vehicle and it is really a good performer. But once Musk got involved and micro-managed the mass production process, well that was the end.