In the name of cost cutting
05-15-16, 09:48 PM
#76
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Call me silly, but I really do like the dash design in that generation ES, much more so than the next gen car that replaced it. And actually I HATE outdated nav screens in cars from the 2000's, so its much nicer IMO to just have an old school radio with buttons, rather than some pathetic, laggy, hard to use system with Atari graphics and no bluetooth connection. If I need directions, I can punch it in my phone. IMO those outdated screen systems date the car much more than something from the 90's that just has a conventional radio with seperate HVAC controls.
05-16-16, 08:15 AM
#78
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it does constantly. example, mid 90s german cars may have been 'classic clean style' when they were around but now they look laughable, cheap, and boring.
05-16-16, 08:19 AM
#79
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I also think back to my dad's 98 LS400. At the time I recall thinking it was so beautiful, looked big and imposing, smooth and modern. I saw one in a parking lot yesterday and while it certainly is nostalgic to me, and I still appreciate the smooth lines and like the look...its unquestionably dated.
05-16-16, 08:59 AM
#80
Really, look at 911, challenger, Beatle, corvette, same basic body design. Cars that still standout and loved today just like yesteryears.
05-16-16, 09:49 AM
#81
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Originally Posted by Coleroad
Really, look at 911, challenger, Beatle, corvette, same basic body design. Cars that still standout and loved today just like yesteryears.
05-16-16, 10:11 AM
#82
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Dated has negative connotations. I don't consider the Miura dated at all...its the definition of "classic"
05-16-16, 10:25 AM
#83
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05-16-16, 11:26 AM
#84
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I tend to agree with Coleroad. With those tall, 90s-vintage sedans, tall people could at least get in and out of the back seat without banging your head or contorting yourself into a pretzel. And, of course, you could see out the back (or to the sides) without cameras or electronic detectors that can fail.
05-16-16, 12:12 PM
#85
Lexus Fanatic
I tend to agree with Coleroad. With those tall, 90s-vintage sedans, tall people could at least get in and out of the back seat without banging your head or contorting yourself into a pretzel. And, of course, you could see out the back (or to the sides) without cameras or electronic detectors that can fail.
05-16-16, 04:33 PM
#86
Call me silly, but I really do like the dash design in that generation ES, much more so than the next gen car that replaced it. And actually I HATE outdated nav screens in cars from the 2000's, so its much nicer IMO to just have an old school radio with buttons, rather than some pathetic, laggy, hard to use system with Atari graphics and no bluetooth connection. If I need directions, I can punch it in my phone. IMO those outdated screen systems date the car much more than something from the 90's that just has a conventional radio with seperate HVAC controls.
Now on newer cars, yes the screen systems are cool and its crazy how well they will interface with your phone and apps to play music. I just HATE the old crap systems from the 2000's, give me a tape player so I can plug my phone into the radio with a cassette adapter.
Now on newer cars, yes the screen systems are cool and its crazy how well they will interface with your phone and apps to play music. I just HATE the old crap systems from the 2000's, give me a tape player so I can plug my phone into the radio with a cassette adapter.
05-16-16, 05:11 PM
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05-17-16, 07:14 AM
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I tend to agree with Coleroad. With those tall, 90s-vintage sedans, tall people could at least get in and out of the back seat without banging your head or contorting yourself into a pretzel. And, of course, you could see out the back (or to the sides) without cameras or electronic detectors that can fail.
plus today cuv/suvs are more popular than sedans, and they're certainly easier to get in and out of.
05-17-16, 12:04 PM
#89
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Unfortunately, too many times, style helps determine function.
Well, I'm certainly no James Dean LOL. 
In most cases that's true....but there certainly are some exceptions (Acura ZDX, Nissan Juke, Land Rover Evoq, etc...)
and good luck getting into / out of an old porsche.
plus today cuv/suvs are more popular than sedans, and they're certainly easier to get in and out of.
05-18-16, 07:17 AM
#90
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Totally off topic but I'm big fan of the E39 5-series. The smooth integrated lights and rounded shark nose make it look a lot less dated than the E34 and also the E-class and A6 from the same era.
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