Toyota Camry is the Most "American-Made" Car
#16
I can't imagine buying a Camry when are so many more attractive choices out there. Accord, Mazda6, Fusion, even Malibu. They all have character and presence. When I see a Camry I always think "I like that silver/blue paint, then looks like a Corolla".
#17
Lexus Test Driver
What ^ said. Not in dire straights, but they have done much better with the Camry not too long ago. There's no reason why they can't apply the same magic to it and raise it to the top again. Ho-hum for the masses is really not something one can rely on for a top position. Competition has gotten too good.
#18
Lexus Fanatic
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when i see camry i see drivers who want to 'fit in' and not 'stand out', drive something safe and reliable and seen as a 'sensible' choice.
#19
Lexus Fanatic
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We will probably see an evolution of Toyota’s recent Angry Birds front-end styling...
#20
Lexus Fanatic
I don't what it is, but when I see the Mazda 6, I don't see a family car. I also perceive a car that does not look as roomy and large as the other (even though it is). I see a car with a roof line that appears lower than the others.
As for the Malibu, not a chance. Most people will take boring, reliable Toyota vs a unreliable, well-optioned Chevy
#21
Lexus Fanatic
I have to agree with the other member who posted. You are not the target market, Toyota does a very good job at catering to people who want "Vanilla" and to have something that is reliable and easy to maintain. Something that will last ten years and won't leave you stranded.
I don't what it is, but when I see the Mazda 6, I don't see a family car. I also perceive a car that does not look as roomy and large as the other (even though it is). I see a car with a roof line that appears lower than the others.
As for the Malibu, not a chance. Most people will take boring, reliable Toyota vs a unreliable, well-optioned Chevy
I don't what it is, but when I see the Mazda 6, I don't see a family car. I also perceive a car that does not look as roomy and large as the other (even though it is). I see a car with a roof line that appears lower than the others.
As for the Malibu, not a chance. Most people will take boring, reliable Toyota vs a unreliable, well-optioned Chevy
Believe me, Jill....the Mazda6 is BIG. You don't really see how large it really is until you get close to one and stand next to it. It's marketed as a medium-size sedan, but, IMO, is really a full-size sedan by today's standards.
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-01-16 at 03:19 PM.
#22
Lexus Test Driver
I wish that were the case, but it is not here in SoCal. The majority of new Impalas and Malibus are still rentals. These cars have not convinced savvy buyers yet, and I do not believe it's because of people's old memory of past cars. From my observations, both have been released with styling that does not advance the car forward. Within one or two short years, they are already outdated. There has to be more modern advancement with these bodies and interiors to keep up with the better selling marks out there.
#23
Lexus Fanatic
The main issue with the Malibu's is that it is, in fact, not a rental-grade vehicle any more (hasn't been for several years)....but many minds are still stuck in GM's bad old past. We saw the same thing for several years with Hyundai and Kia.......delayed public acceptance after big improvements were made.
Believe me, Jill....the Mazda6 is BIG. You don't really see how large it really is until you get close to one and stand next to it. It's marketed as a medium-size sedan, but, IMO, is really a full-size sedan by today's standards.
Believe me, Jill....the Mazda6 is BIG. You don't really see how large it really is until you get close to one and stand next to it. It's marketed as a medium-size sedan, but, IMO, is really a full-size sedan by today's standards.
#24
Lexus Fanatic
These cars have not convinced savvy buyers yet, and I do not believe it's because of people's old memory of past cars. From my observations, both have been released with styling that does not advance the car forward. Within one or two short years, they are already outdated. There has to be more modern advancement with these bodies and interiors to keep up with the better selling marks out there.
Anyhow, I don't want to get too far off topic. We were on the Toyota Camry and its parts-content.
#25
Lexus Fanatic
Comparing the specs on the web-sites, the Mazda6 is roughly an inch longer and wider than a Camry, which, I'll agree, is not much on paper, but its general styling and sheet-metal execution gives it the appearance of a significantly bigger car. Perhaps I should have re-worded my earlier post to refer to the appearance of a larger car (which I still stand by)....OK, I'll agree to that.
#26
Not really shocked at all. Toyota has worked hard to make sure they build the Camry in the US and they have made sure that the parts are from the US on the most part.
Sadly, the new styling is not that great. The pre-facelift of the current generation looked much better. Toyota also really needs to give an update to the engines.
Sadly, the new styling is not that great. The pre-facelift of the current generation looked much better. Toyota also really needs to give an update to the engines.
Last edited by BrownPride; 07-02-16 at 04:06 PM.
#27
More than a few times I got the idiots making "Asian eyes" at me in my 2001 Tacoma back during the early 2000s through the windshields of their Fords and Dodges. If I had the chance I would have informed their ignorant minds that my Tacoma was 100% American-built in the now-closed Nummi plant in Fremont, Ca.
#28
Comparing the specs on the web-sites, the Mazda6 is roughly an inch longer and wider than a Camry, which, I'll agree, is not much on paper, but its general styling and sheet-metal execution gives it the appearance of a significantly bigger car. Perhaps I should have re-worded my earlier post to refer to the appearance of a larger car (which I still stand by)....OK, I'll agree to that.
#29
Lexus Champion
The Camry is ugly until it becomes the last-generation model, at which point it becomes good (or at least better) looking. I have lost count of how many times I have read: "This new Camry is ugly. The last-gen model was good looking".
Seriously, the problem is not that the Camry is not good looking (after all, looks are subjective and I have lost count of how many times that I have said that I am not fond of the current-gen Accord's styling).
The problem is this: Familiarity breeds contempt. The problem is that the Camry is so good that it is extremely popular and so every other car on the road seems to be a Toyota Camry; what is worse is that because of its reliability, it seems that every taxicab on our streets is a Camry. Seeing so many, they become too familiar and they become nothing special.
In contrast, there are so very few Mazda 6s on the road that each one seems special.
Seriously, the problem is not that the Camry is not good looking (after all, looks are subjective and I have lost count of how many times that I have said that I am not fond of the current-gen Accord's styling).
The problem is this: Familiarity breeds contempt. The problem is that the Camry is so good that it is extremely popular and so every other car on the road seems to be a Toyota Camry; what is worse is that because of its reliability, it seems that every taxicab on our streets is a Camry. Seeing so many, they become too familiar and they become nothing special.
In contrast, there are so very few Mazda 6s on the road that each one seems special.
#30
Lexus Fanatic
The problem is this: Familiarity breeds contempt. The problem is that the Camry is so good that it is extremely popular and so every other car on the road seems to be a Toyota Camry; what is worse is that because of its reliability, it seems that every taxicab on our streets is a Camry. Seeing so many, they become too familiar and they become nothing special.
In contrast, there are so very few Mazda 6s on the road that each one seems special.
In contrast, there are so very few Mazda 6s on the road that each one seems special.