Head 2 Head GSF vs CTS-V Motor Trend video
#32
I just want to say that motor trend needs to keep these guys employed! One of the best and most enjoyable to watch comparos i have seen, which is all thanks to their awesome banter and realistic views on the cars. Are these guys only on motor trend? Do they have their own youtube channel?
#33
Lead Lap
For instance what makes the typical high end performance buyer choose a GSF type vehicle over a mundane GS350 F sport type vehicle. Its got a have a strong engine, its gotta have crap tons of power, suspension that can cut corners and then some, got to have superb shifting transmission, exhaust the list goes, basically tl:dr you want something that is absolutely bonkers to look, drive, and feel. If you meet those visceral requirements, then Lexus can command any price it puts on the sticker and then some. Right now, the GSF as a product doesnt really completely meet the visceral requirements above. Its got lots of things going for it, like a ride that wont destroy your spine, and a V8 thats got the cylinder count but not the gobs of power, the easiest to handle ala wont kill ya and tbh those things are good and dandy, but what else. If you need a vehicle that wont destroy your spine, and a v8s good, step into a 550i.
Basically until they up the power game, the takers for these cars are going to be those who recognize that the perf per dollar ratio on these with incentives is amazing and take this over a M4 or M5 where dealers are commanding sticker due to low allocation units that sometimes get sold out in advance.
Last edited by coolsaber; 07-25-16 at 08:25 AM.
#34
Lexus Fanatic
I thought it was a great review. In the end we may like the looks and even the styling of the GSF , but when objectively compared its a blood bath in terms of performance. The GSF still seems to have that balance but 173 extra hp is hard to ignore......actually impossible. The only people who are going to buy the GSF will be fan boys like myself, previous ISF owners, and others looking for an 85k NA V8 sedan that many will call ugly. At least the ISF was competitive
#35
I just want to say that motor trend needs to keep these guys employed! One of the best and most enjoyable to watch comparos i have seen, which is all thanks to their awesome banter and realistic views on the cars. Are these guys only on motor trend? Do they have their own youtube channel?
#36
Lexus Test Driver
That would expose the devaluation of the F series models, something that Lexus bean counters do not want to do for residuals sake and future sales (Lexus doesnt do this alone, you`ll find this with other performance marques as well). The RCF was cutback in production, coupled with 12-14% incentive packages off the bat, at this point if the RCF doesnt do well, its going to be one hell of a board meeting to continue production. However since the secrets been out that the RCF doesnt move as well, dealers have come to terms with trying to move units. They know what the market will take, and are doing that without any fuss.
What Lexus seems to be depending on for F marque sales these days is people who want Lexus reliability or simply want something without a German badge on it (although in my case, I suppose Lexus' gamble lost). Even Chris Harris said not having a German badge was what the RC F had most going for it.
Last edited by gengar; 07-25-16 at 03:47 PM.
#37
Lexus Fanatic
#38
Lexus Champion
I just want to say that motor trend needs to keep these guys employed! One of the best and most enjoyable to watch comparos i have seen, which is all thanks to their awesome banter and realistic views on the cars. Are these guys only on motor trend? Do they have their own youtube channel?
Anyway, back to topic. The GSF is gonna have a hard time selling at that price range.
#39
Lead Lap
I don't know about that - it's not like IS F sales were great either. To be honest, Lexus doesn't sell enough of these in the first place to make depreciation an issue. Just as it never was an issue for the original IS F. When initial supply on these is so low, secondary market demand will always seem high relative to secondary market supply.
What Lexus seems to be depending on for F marque sales these days is people who want Lexus reliability or simply want something without a German badge on it (although in my case, I suppose Lexus' gamble lost). Even Chris Harris said not having a German badge was what the RC F had most going for it.
What Lexus seems to be depending on for F marque sales these days is people who want Lexus reliability or simply want something without a German badge on it (although in my case, I suppose Lexus' gamble lost). Even Chris Harris said not having a German badge was what the RC F had most going for it.
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